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FistfulOAwesome
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Er, that was weird. Also, I'm surprised at Fry saying penises, the old Futurama wouldn't have done that.
I thought it was weird when that alien on the nudist planet in BBS said "penis"; that line of Fry's, though, was kind of funny in its matter-of-fact delivery. That said, I think you're right--I don't recall one instance of that particular(ly inoffensive) word in the original series.
And I don't think the use of more, er, adult language is cause for "Oh noes, the show's turning into Family Guy"-type alarm, but I understand what you mean, Books. Crude humor works in certain episodes ("Spanish Fry" comes to mind); the writers need to pick their moments, I guess.
I also think the line is funny, but I say that Wang is an infinitely funnier word because it rolls off the tongue better. As for getting cruder, as long as they don't go overboard I can imagine a few jokes that could be spiced up (BAM!) with some filthier language.
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Frisco17
DOOP Secretary
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I actually think they've bleeped Leela more than anybody else throughout the series.
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Aki
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I'm quite irate for always getting the episode the day after airing (as earliest), and that's when I download them.
Anyway, I really like getting more dirty talk into Futurama; I hate censoring, in Sweden close to no channels has it, and no-one minds prime time tv clearly discussing anal sex.
Still it shouldn't be used just because; I quite like how it has been used so far.
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Aki
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I never watch TV, and never have. I download and buy DVDs. I just can't get the point of a television - annoying commercial and you can't choose when to watch. I would pay for the downloading if I could, but I think I've paid them pretty well having rented seasons 1-2 and bought 3-4 as well as the first two films (the others aren't available here).
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Aki
Professor
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Don't know if this would be the right thread, but still: I heard from a friend today that he had read Futurama recently signed for 60 new episodes (26 in first episode, then 16 and 17). Is this just rumour, or have I missed out something? Because I thought this first new season is more of a check, to see if they can go on after that.
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Ralph Snart
Agent Provocateur
Near Death Star Inhabitant
DOOP Secretary
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My problem is the constant use of the RESET button. It was frustrating enough to watch an episode where Fry and Leela had made a milestone in their relationship with each other, then know that the next episode would totally ignore the forward movement.
Now the first episode of the new run is going to hit the RESET button so hard that it may alienate some of the hardcore fans..
Yo, any of the Futurama staff who lurks (and I know who some of you are), let me tell you something: The thing of "Fry Chases Leela, Leela ignores Fry, Leela Realizes that Fry is a good guy, The End. Rinse, Repeat" is already overdone and worn. Do one of two things - bust them up or marry them off, but do something with them because the current status quo has gone to the well one time too many.
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Aki
Professor
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My problem is the constant use of the RESET button. It was frustrating enough to watch an episode where Fry and Leela had made a milestone in their relationship with each other, then know that the next episode would totally ignore the forward movement.
Now the first episode of the new run is going to hit the RESET button so hard that it may alienate some of the hardcore fans..
Yo, any of the Futurama staff who lurks (and I know who some of you are), let me tell you something: The thing of "Fry Chases Leela, Leela ignores Fry, Leela Realizes that Fry is a good guy, The End. Rinse, Repeat" is already overdone and worn. Do one of two things - bust them up or marry them off, but do something with them because the current status quo has gone to the well one time too many.
I agree, it's really overdone. I had an idea of a good episode: FRY for once starts ignoring Leela to "pay back" or whatever, and does everything he can to piss her off whereas she gets jealous. At least that would be a more original storyline. Also I would like it if they started dating, at least for a while. It could be somewhat more continuing, as a plot throughout the season. At least I would like to see SOME progress in their relationship after Yonder.
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FistfulOAwesome
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« Reply #711 on: 10-06-2009 19:54 »
« Last Edit on: 10-06-2009 21:24 »
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Alright, I have a radical thought, and it may alienate me a little, but I've got to get this off my chest: I don't know how to feel about Matt Groening!
Here's what I mean. Some of Matt's recent decisions with the show have brought me up and down so much that I'm not sure what his contributing vision is or even if it's good for the series.
First, he pushed for the pairing off of Fry and Leela at the end of ITWGY. Up. Then, once the series was renewed, we learn that he now thought they had stuck themselves in a corner. Down. Then we learn that he wanted to forget about the Wormhole business altogether, rather than resolve it. Down.
Initially, going against David X.'s proposed "Alternate Universe Zoo" storyline brought me down. I thought that was a perfect way to bring back the series. But actually, Matt's "rebirth" idea is growing on me, since it's a darkly perfect way to bring back the series. I mean, I was as shocked and interested as everybody else when I saw the footage. As much as I like it, David's story would have been just another episode where Matt's has the potential to do as it's proposed title suggests: Rebirth the series. Up.
Finally, as much potential as it has, it's a little strange. Matt wanted to just get back to the series, but then he pitches a story (or story concept) that it's even more radical and requires even more care than X.'s!? What's with this guy!? There stems my fear that Matt still doesn't want to invest any time into the episode and it will have been a wasted concept.
Why such a change? This episode literally might be the most important episode the series has ever had (and will likely still be till a finale). They can't just shrug any of it's subject matter off. It has to be handled with the most delicate of care, because this episode is the one that will represent what the writers will do with the second return us fans have given them. It's the first taste, and I want that taste to be amazing.
Matt's earlier reservations make me worry whether he's for that, whether he understands how important this little show he half came up with really is to its fans. I really hope he does.
Up? Down? I don't know.
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Tedward
Professor
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Perhaps I'm the only Futurama fan who thinks this but I really hope they don't keep making more and more eps until the point when it goes stale.
I agree that I dont want it going the same way as the Simpsons but if the quality is still there i'd like them to continue making them as long as they can.
That's the thing; if we never see the show lose its brilliance but it ends, I'd probably wish that it could keep going because there would still be more stories to be told. However, deep down I don't really want the show to go on for too long of a time, if only because it would become rather...unwieldly. There’s something special in that the show can have been finished and brought back twice and still have been, conflicting views of the movies aside, still funny and touching and brilliant and all that even during the turmoil surrounding the show’s future. This may be a bit petty of me, but I feel as though I rather like that Futurama is popular and loved enough to be resurrected, but is still not a massively known entity like The Simpsons (and, I do of course love Futurama because it is a wonderful show); I don’t want it to lose its spark, be it the spark of the good writing, directing, animation, acting, etc., or the spark of excitement that the show’s more than underground but less than total mainstream status gives it. Again, I really hope that the writers can go above and beyond for the new episodes and give Futurama all the comedy and continuity that it deserves. Why such a change? This episode literally might be the most important episode the series has ever had (and will likely still be till a finale). They can't just shrug any of it's subject matter off. It has to be handled with the most delicate of care, because this episode is the one that will represent what the writers will do with the second return us fans have given them. It's the first taste, and I want that taste to be amazing.
Oh, I agree. I am worried too that this first episode will be that- just another episode. As you said before, it really shouldn’t be, since both the second resurrection of the show and the fact that the story seems to be going in this bizarre but intriguing direction should mean something. I would like to think, though, that Matt and DXC really are trying to make the show as good as possible (especially DXC). Frankly, I think it’s neat that Matt has such a decision-making role in the show and still is actively involved in its production, if only in more conceptual ways. But your concerns do make sense…we’ll just have to hope for the best.
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Aki
Professor
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I'm not actually looking too much into Fry apparently not remembering anything. In reality it was probably just for the sake of giving them a chance to show a "Previously on Futurama..." type snippet. Plus the Professor started the story of what happened right at the end of ITWGY which would indicate that Fry remembers that part - just not what happened after the wormhole. I agree. It's not unusual to wake up after a crash not remembering the actual crash... I don't think they'll just say no-one remember. It wouldn't work. As I said before I wouldn't mind Fry and Leela dating for a while... perhaps realising it doesn't work and breaking up.
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FistfulOAwesome
Starship Captain
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I am worried too that this first episode will be that- just another episode. As you said before, it really shouldn’t be, since both the second resurrection of the show and the fact that the story seems to be going in this bizarre but intriguing direction should mean something. I would like to think, though, that Matt and DXC really are trying to make the show as good as possible (especially DXC). Frankly, I think it’s neat that Matt has such a decision-making role in the show and still is actively involved in its production, if only in more conceptual ways. But your concerns do make sense…we’ll just have to hope for the best. I'm trying to keep my hopes up. Stay positive. I'm very hopeful that this will be done right. About Matt: I really do like that he's involved. I could make the case that The Simpsons started dropping once the old guard had left/didn't care, Matt included. To a point, I do believe that he keeps DXC from going too far in a Sci-Fi direction. They work in tandem to make the series work from all its angles. I was just expressing concern over some of his recent, conflicting decisions. I'm sure they'll do good. It's not unusual to wake up after a crash not remembering the actual crash. I don't think they'll just say no-one remember. It wouldn't work. As I said before I wouldn't mind Fry and Leela dating for a while... perhaps realising it doesn't work and breaking up.
The only people who could mess up F/L's relationship to the point of break-up would be the writers (and I sincerely believe they're too talented for that). Breaking them up would make every episode and moment between them before utterly irrelevant. What would have been to point of all that if they aren't willing to do something with it? There is no way they'd mess up like that.
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