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Go-a-Green-a

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« Reply #680 on: 10-06-2009 02:05 »

I'm sure this episode will be good, remember in the first bit we could see the proffesor working on something with chemicals. That could be some weird Si-Fi experiment that could bring the crew back and I'm sure he needs Fry to do something to make it work.

Also, remember Nibler's shadow at the end of ITWGY? Even though it probably is just a reference to SP3000 it could have been Nibler that saved him, maybe later mentioned in another episode. However, I don't think that's what's going to happen. What I do know is that I'm sure the writers will think of something that won't piss off all the fans.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #681 on: 10-06-2009 02:15 »

Er, that was weird.
Also, I'm surprised at Fry saying penises, the old Futurama wouldn't have done that.

I thought it was weird when that alien on the nudist planet in BBS said "penis"; that line of Fry's, though, was kind of funny in its matter-of-fact delivery. That said, I think you're right--I don't recall one instance of that particular(ly inoffensive) word in the original series.

And I don't think the use of more, er, adult language is cause for "Oh noes, the show's turning into Family Guy"-type alarm, but I understand what you mean, Books. Crude humor works in certain episodes ("Spanish Fry" comes to mind); the writers need to pick their moments, I guess.

I also think the line is funny, but I say that Wang is an infinitely funnier word because it rolls off the tongue better.

As for getting cruder, as long as they don't go overboard I can imagine a few jokes that could be spiced up (BAM!) with some filthier language.
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« Reply #682 on: 10-06-2009 03:15 »
« Last Edit on: 10-06-2009 03:16 »

I myself prefer the euphemism "doodle".  As used in the excellent Simpsons movie.

I agree, FistfulOAwesome (may I call you "Fist"?); I hope the crew behind the new Futurama eps doesn't do crudity to excess just because they can. It can detract from a show rather than make it more "adult" (whatever the hell that means anymore). I mean, I'm a huge fan of South Park, but the grossest eps (like the one where people were, um, number two-ing out their mouths) are my least favorites and are the ones I'll probably never watch again. SP can do better than that. And so can Futurama. This sitch reminds me of that line in the Spongebob ep when the little yellow guy learns a new word, has no idea it's profane, and proceeds to use it in every sentence. He uses it during an announcement over the intercom at the Krusty Krab, and one customer protests: "I don't get it. That guy's talented. He doesn't HAVE to work blue." Same deal for Fry and company. Here's hoping the gang doesn't let their newfound access to George Carlins 7 naughty words replace witty and clever writing. We'll see...
Go-a-Green-a

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« Reply #683 on: 10-06-2009 03:24 »

I don't think there will be ALOT of profanity in the new episodes, but it is Comedy Central so there probably will be more then usual. It's mainly Bender we might have to watch out for....
Frisco17

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« Reply #684 on: 10-06-2009 03:36 »

I actually think they've bleeped Leela more than anybody else throughout the series.
Go-a-Green-a

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« Reply #685 on: 10-06-2009 03:38 »

Ah right, I forgot about all of that. Well then I guess i'ts both Leela and Bender that we'll have to keep an eye on.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #686 on: 10-06-2009 03:59 »

No way should the writers take their freedom (in language and content) on Comedy Central to mean that they don't have to try as hard (I mean, they won't, but I'm just mentioning it).

The series was funny because of how many different types of jokes there were (even for the astrophysicists in the audience) and because of how many different ways a joke could be taken (be funny). There is no need to devolve into crudeness all the time (only when it'll be funny).

Billy West said it best: "This show has more layers than an onion". Let's not get rid of any of those layers. We'll just be left with less onion.
lilkitten29

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« Reply #687 on: 10-06-2009 04:17 »

Wow that was amazing! I'm all excited! haha.
But ya, I don't really want Futurama to be more crude than usual. I love clever witty jokes, not stupid immature crude jokes.
Anyways, it REALL sucks for me because I don't get Comedy Central......does Canada even get Comedy Central?? How am I supposed watch the new Futurama???!!!
CookiesOnTheFloor
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« Reply #688 on: 10-06-2009 05:05 »

Wow that was amazing! I'm all excited! haha.
But ya, I don't really want Futurama to be more crude than usual. I love clever witty jokes, not stupid immature crude jokes.
Anyways, it REALL sucks for me because I don't get Comedy Central......does Canada even get Comedy Central?? How am I supposed watch the new Futurama???!!!

Maybe Comedy Central will post the episodes online.
Go-a-Green-a

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« Reply #689 on: 10-06-2009 05:11 »

Wow that was amazing! I'm all excited! haha.
But ya, I don't really want Futurama to be more crude than usual. I love clever witty jokes, not stupid immature crude jokes.
Anyways, it REALL sucks for me because I don't get Comedy Central......does Canada even get Comedy Central?? How am I supposed watch the new Futurama???!!!

Woah, woah. Calm down, I live in Canada too, in fact I also live in Alberta. The new episodes will be on The Comedy Netwark up here which is the same thing as CC only a different name. You can also buy CC if you are willing to.
Freako

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« Reply #690 on: 10-06-2009 05:20 »

Or just use your old friend, "The Internet!"
Go-a-Green-a

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« Reply #691 on: 10-06-2009 05:25 »

Ah, the Internet. Nerds' best friend.
lilkitten29

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« Reply #692 on: 10-06-2009 05:43 »

Is Comedy Network really the same thing as Comedy Central? But Comedy Network currently doesn't even show the Futurama at all, but Comedy Central does.
But ya, there's always the internet, lol.
iceiwynd

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« Reply #693 on: 10-06-2009 06:53 »

Alberta, fuck yeah!

Comedy Network is not the same thing as Comedy Central. There's no telling how good they'll be with Futurama - they already don't show it and sometimes it can take them months to get anything.

Best bet would be the internet through certain means, yeah. No need to stress over it though. Things come up online incredibly quickly.
MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #694 on: 10-06-2009 09:01 »

Or just use your old friend, "The Internet!"

I'm gonna have to watch it online either way....even if sky air them quite close to the US airdate I don't have it....
Freako

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« Reply #695 on: 10-06-2009 09:10 »

I know I will, no matter how low quality the video is.
Aki

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« Reply #696 on: 10-06-2009 10:22 »

I'm quite irate for always getting the episode the day after airing (as earliest), and that's when I download them.

Anyway, I really like getting more dirty talk into Futurama; I hate censoring, in Sweden close to no channels has it, and no-one minds prime time tv clearly discussing anal sex.

Still it shouldn't be used just because; I quite like how it has been used so far.
Go-a-Green-a

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« Reply #697 on: 10-06-2009 17:51 »

TCN will be showing Futurama but I'm just going to watch the episodes online even if the quality is low because TCN sucks. It sucks with The Simpsons so I don't think it will do a good job with Futurama. The internet is always there when you need it plus you can always buy the seasons on DVD when they come out so eventualy everyone will get to see them in high quality.
Aki

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« Reply #698 on: 10-06-2009 17:55 »

I never watch TV, and never have. I download and buy DVDs. I just can't get the point of a television - annoying commercial and you can't choose when to watch. I would pay for the downloading if I could, but I think I've paid them pretty well having rented seasons 1-2 and bought 3-4 as well as the first two films (the others aren't available here).
MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #699 on: 10-06-2009 17:55 »

My justification for watching online is that I'm gonna buy the DVDs anyway...so they're not gonna lose any money right
Nixons Head

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« Reply #700 on: 10-06-2009 18:00 »

Yeah, im doing the same. God knows when it will be on here and im not going to wait to find out.
Aki

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« Reply #701 on: 10-06-2009 18:05 »

Don't know if this would be the right thread, but still: I heard from a friend today that he had read Futurama recently signed for 60 new episodes (26 in first episode, then 16 and 17). Is this just rumour, or have I missed out something? Because I thought this first new season is more of a check, to see if they can go on after that.
Nixons Head

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« Reply #702 on: 10-06-2009 18:09 »

13 episodes in season 1, 13 episodes in season 2 thats all
Go-a-Green-a

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« Reply #703 on: 10-06-2009 18:13 »

There will be 26 episodes to air within the span of two seasons and if they do well then there will be more.

By the way I heard a rumor that Futurama will be airing on Teletoon At Night up here in Canada, but it's only a rumor and I don't care, I always watch the episodes online.
MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #704 on: 10-06-2009 18:15 »

Futurama recently signed for 60 new episodes (26 in first episode, then 16 and 17).

That would only make 59 episodes anyway.....and is most definitely not true...there will be 13 episodes in 2010 and 13 more in 2011.

Cohen has said he is unsure if any more will be ordered later by Fox but it will probably depend on the performance of the first 13.
Curious Gorge

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« Reply #705 on: 10-06-2009 18:32 »

Perhaps I'm the only Futurama fan who thinks this but I really hope they don't keep making more and more eps until the point when it goes stale.

It's such a fantastic show but every long running show of this type eventually reaches a point where the shark has been well and truly jumped.

I don't think Futurama's come to that point yet but I don't think it's too far away, we'll be in a better position to judge after seeing the two new seasons but I get the feeling that perhaps one more season (after the two we are already guaranteed) will signal the end...and that would be no bad thing providing they're all up to scratch.

We shall see but I'd really like to see them give the show a proper ending one day - hopefully at a point where we're still left wanting just that little bit more. It's a surefire sign that a show's had an excellent run if it ends with the audience still wanting just a little bit more.
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« Reply #706 on: 10-06-2009 18:37 »

I agree that I dont want it going the same way as the Simpsons but if the quality is still there i'd like them to continue making them as long as they can.
MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #707 on: 10-06-2009 18:38 »
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@CuriosGeorge I agree 100%...I want more Futurama but not so badly that I want the quality to suffer. That is my main problem with the Simpsons...they just dragged it out too long and I don't feel it's funny at all any more.
If they'd have quit in its prime then things would be different....

@Nixons Head Yeah if they can keep the quality up then long live Futurama!
But if at any point it loses its sharpness...it would be better to say goodbye once and for all with a hilarious finale befitting a great series
Go-a-Green-a

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« Reply #708 on: 10-06-2009 18:40 »

As long as the stroy ideas are good I think Futurama should stick around.
Ralph Snart

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« Reply #709 on: 10-06-2009 19:15 »

My problem is the constant use of the RESET button.  It was frustrating enough to watch an episode where Fry and Leela had made a milestone in their relationship with each other, then know that the next episode would totally ignore the forward movement.

Now the first episode of the new run is going to hit the RESET button so hard that it may alienate some of the hardcore fans..

Yo, any of the Futurama staff who lurks (and I know who some of you are), let me tell you something:  The thing of "Fry Chases Leela, Leela ignores Fry, Leela Realizes that Fry is a good guy, The End.  Rinse, Repeat" is already overdone and worn.  Do one of two things - bust them up or marry them off, but do something with them because the current status quo has gone to the well one time too many.
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« Reply #710 on: 10-06-2009 19:26 »

My problem is the constant use of the RESET button.  It was frustrating enough to watch an episode where Fry and Leela had made a milestone in their relationship with each other, then know that the next episode would totally ignore the forward movement.

Now the first episode of the new run is going to hit the RESET button so hard that it may alienate some of the hardcore fans..

Yo, any of the Futurama staff who lurks (and I know who some of you are), let me tell you something:  The thing of "Fry Chases Leela, Leela ignores Fry, Leela Realizes that Fry is a good guy, The End.  Rinse, Repeat" is already overdone and worn.  Do one of two things - bust them up or marry them off, but do something with them because the current status quo has gone to the well one time too many.
I agree, it's really overdone. I had an idea of a good episode: FRY for once starts ignoring Leela to "pay back" or whatever, and does everything he can to piss her off whereas she gets jealous. At least that would be a more original storyline. Also I would like it if they started dating, at least for  a while. It could be somewhat more continuing, as a plot throughout the season. At least I would like to see SOME progress in their relationship after Yonder.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #711 on: 10-06-2009 19:54 »
« Last Edit on: 10-06-2009 21:24 »

Alright, I have a radical thought, and it may alienate me a little, but I've got to get this off my chest: I don't know how to feel about Matt Groening!

Here's what I mean. Some of Matt's recent decisions with the show have brought me up and down so much that I'm not sure what his contributing vision is or even if it's good for the series.

First, he pushed for the pairing off of Fry and Leela at the end of ITWGY. Up. Then, once the series was renewed, we learn that he now thought they had stuck themselves in a corner. Down. Then we learn that he wanted to forget about the Wormhole business altogether, rather than resolve it. Down.

Initially, going against David X.'s proposed "Alternate Universe Zoo" storyline brought me down. I thought that was a perfect way to bring back the series. But actually, Matt's "rebirth" idea is growing on me, since it's a darkly perfect way to bring back the series. I mean, I was as shocked and interested as everybody else when I saw the footage. As much as I like it, David's story would have been just another episode where Matt's has the potential to do as it's proposed title suggests: Rebirth the series. Up.

Finally, as much potential as it has, it's a little strange. Matt wanted to just get back to the series, but then he pitches a story (or story concept) that it's even more radical and requires even more care than X.'s!? What's with this guy!? There stems my fear that Matt still doesn't want to invest any time into the episode and it will have been a wasted concept.

Why such a change? This episode literally might be the most important episode the series has ever had (and will likely still be till a finale). They can't just shrug any of it's subject matter off. It has to be handled with the most delicate of care, because this episode is the one that will represent what the writers will do with the second return us fans have given them. It's the first taste, and I want that taste to be amazing.

Matt's earlier reservations make me worry whether he's for that, whether he understands how important this little show he half came up with really is to its fans. I really hope he does.

Up? Down? I don't know.
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« Reply #712 on: 10-06-2009 20:06 »

Perhaps I'm the only Futurama fan who thinks this but I really hope they don't keep making more and more eps until the point when it goes stale.

I agree that I dont want it going the same way as the Simpsons but if the quality is still there i'd like them to continue making them as long as they can.

That's the thing; if we never see the show lose its brilliance but it ends, I'd probably wish that it could keep going because there would still be more stories to be told. However, deep down I don't really want the show to go on for too long of a time, if only because it would become rather...unwieldly. There’s something special in that the show can have been finished and brought back twice and still have been, conflicting views of the movies aside, still funny and touching and brilliant and all that even during the turmoil surrounding the show’s future. This may be a bit petty of me, but I feel as though I rather like that Futurama is popular and loved enough to be resurrected, but is still not a massively known entity like The Simpsons (and, I do of course love Futurama because it is a wonderful show); I don’t want it to lose its spark, be it the spark of the good writing, directing, animation, acting, etc., or the spark of excitement that the show’s more than underground but less than total mainstream status gives it. Again, I really hope that the writers can go above and beyond for the new episodes and give Futurama all the comedy and continuity that it deserves.

Why such a change? This episode literally might be the most important episode the series has ever had (and will likely still be till a finale). They can't just shrug any of it's subject matter off. It has to be handled with the most delicate of care, because this episode is the one that will represent what the writers will do with the second return us fans have given them. It's the first taste, and I want that taste to be amazing.

Oh, I agree. I am worried too that this first episode will be that- just another episode. As you said before, it really shouldn’t be, since both the second resurrection of the show and the fact that the story seems to be going in this bizarre but intriguing direction should mean something. I would like to think, though, that Matt and DXC really are trying to make the show as good as possible (especially DXC). Frankly, I think it’s neat that Matt has such a decision-making role in the show and still is actively involved in its production, if only in more conceptual ways. But your concerns do make sense…we’ll just have to hope for the best.
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« Reply #713 on: 10-06-2009 20:18 »

Agree with Mr Snart, the 'Fry chasing Leela' angle has been done to death. With the ending in ITWGY they ended it at just the right time. It'd be a bad move to press the reset now, not only would be it annoying but it'd also dilute any future moments between them that are intended to be touching - knowing that they're just going to hit the reset button afterwards lessens the effect significantly.

Many, myself included, found the ending of ITWGY to be a rather touching resolution to a long running story arc - not to mention being an interesting moment to build on should the show return. To hit the reset button after that would not only be jarring and bizarre but it'd spoil the ending to ITWGY - how many would be able to enjoy that ending again if come the new season it's a case of "well, Leela doesn't remember...oh well"?

That said, I don't actually think they will. I mean, in similar "sneak peek" type gatherings hasn't it already been revealed that they'll have been dating for a while (with Fry being late often times) in one of the episodes?

I can see them luring us into thinking they'll press the reset but I don't think they'll actually do it.
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« Reply #714 on: 10-06-2009 20:20 »

 well, fry said he doesn't remember anything and Matt Groening said they got them selves in a corner and it seems like they're pressing the rest button, but they also said the first episode deals with fry and leela's relationship. also the episode with the date they talked about. Billy west also said there relationship goes further. i can't figure out what direction they're going in
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« Reply #715 on: 10-06-2009 20:22 »

Perhaps I'm the only Futurama fan who thinks this but I really hope they don't keep making more and more eps until the point when it goes stale.

I agree that I dont want it going the same way as the Simpsons but if the quality is still there i'd like them to continue making them as long as they can.

That's the thing; if we never see the show lose its brilliance but it ends, I'd probably wish that it could keep going because there would still be more stories to be told.

Whilst that feeling can be rather annoying (we all certainly had it after the first cancellation) I'd much rather take that than the actual knowledge that it's gone stale.

Sure, most would yearn for just one last adventure to see the much loved characters in all their glory but at least when you look back over the series from beginning to end you'd know that it was a journey to be savoured throughout.
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« Reply #716 on: 10-06-2009 20:25 »

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Well, fry said he doesn't remember anything and Matt Groening said they got them selves in a corner and it seems like they're pressing the rest button, but they also said the first episode deals with fry and leela's relationship. also the episode with the date they talked about. Billy west also said there relationship goes further. i can't figure out what direction they're going in] well, fry said he doesn't remember anything and Matt Groening said they got them selves in a corner and it seems like they're pressing the rest button, but they also said the first episode deals with fry and leela's relationship. also the episode with the date they talked about. Billy west also said there relationship goes further. i can't figure out what direction they're going in

I'm not actually looking too much into Fry apparently not remembering anything. In reality it was probably just for the sake of giving them a chance to show a "Previously on Futurama..." type snippet. Plus the Professor started the story of what happened right at the end of ITWGY which would indicate that Fry remembers that part - just not what happened after the wormhole.

Time shall tell anyway.
Aki

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« Reply #717 on: 10-06-2009 20:35 »

I'm not actually looking too much into Fry apparently not remembering anything. In reality it was probably just for the sake of giving them a chance to show a "Previously on Futurama..." type snippet. Plus the Professor started the story of what happened right at the end of ITWGY which would indicate that Fry remembers that part - just not what happened after the wormhole.
I agree. It's not unusual to wake up after a crash not remembering the actual crash... I don't think they'll just say no-one remember. It wouldn't work. As I said before I wouldn't mind Fry and Leela dating for a while... perhaps realising it doesn't work and breaking up.
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« Reply #718 on: 10-06-2009 20:53 »

I am worried too that this first episode will be that- just another episode. As you said before, it really shouldn’t be, since both the second resurrection of the show and the fact that the story seems to be going in this bizarre but intriguing direction should mean something. I would like to think, though, that Matt and DXC really are trying to make the show as good as possible (especially DXC). Frankly, I think it’s neat that Matt has such a decision-making role in the show and still is actively involved in its production, if only in more conceptual ways. But your concerns do make sense…we’ll just have to hope for the best.

I'm trying to keep my hopes up. Stay positive. I'm very hopeful that this will be done right.

About Matt: I really do like that he's involved. I could make the case that The Simpsons started dropping once the old guard had left/didn't care, Matt included. To a point, I do believe that he keeps DXC from going too far in a Sci-Fi direction. They work in tandem to make the series work from all its angles. I was just expressing concern over some of his recent, conflicting decisions. I'm sure they'll do good.

It's not unusual to wake up after a crash not remembering the actual crash. I don't think they'll just say no-one remember. It wouldn't work. As I said before I wouldn't mind Fry and Leela dating for a while... perhaps realising it doesn't work and breaking up.

The only people who could mess up F/L's relationship to the point of break-up would be the writers (and I sincerely believe they're too talented for that). Breaking them up would make every episode and moment between them before utterly irrelevant. What would have been to point of all that if they aren't willing to do something with it? There is no way they'd mess up like that.
Aki

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« Reply #719 on: 10-06-2009 21:15 »

It's not unusual to wake up after a crash not remembering the actual crash. I don't think they'll just say no-one remember. It wouldn't work. As I said before I wouldn't mind Fry and Leela dating for a while... perhaps realising it doesn't work and breaking up.

The only people who could mess up F/L's relationship to the point of break-up would be the writers (and I sincerely believe they're too talented for that). Breaking them up would make every episode and moment between them before utterly irrelevant. What would have been to point of all that if they aren't willing to do something with it? There is no way they'd mess up like that.
Was that what you said after Fry and Amy broke up? Everything doesn't have to be part of the bigger story. What was the point of Fry's hands being eaten by a dinosaur? Or Bender being possessed by a Werecar when he turned out allright in the end? It's called status quo. smile
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