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Aki

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« Reply #600 on: 10-05-2009 00:10 »

Speaking of Cubert and Dwight (and this might get quite off topic), why haven't they aged between year 3000 and the current 3009 (soon 3010)? The others are excusable, but heck, they're kids :P
Nixons Head

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« Reply #601 on: 10-05-2009 00:11 »

Cuberts a clone, Dwight is Jamacain therfore neither age.
Aki

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« Reply #602 on: 10-05-2009 00:12 »

Cuberts a clone, Dwight is Jamacain therfore neither age.
Oh. Right. How silly of me; I cry pardon. *cough*
Officer 1BDI

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« Reply #603 on: 10-05-2009 00:12 »

Cubert's lack of growth could at least be explained away by saying something went wrong with the cloning process and his body isn't growing at a normal rate/stopped growing.  I've no bullshit excuses for Dwight, though. :P
MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #604 on: 10-05-2009 00:13 »

Not sure they were on the ship...but they also weren't at the explosion ceremony thing at the end of ITWGY either....
Aki

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« Reply #605 on: 10-05-2009 00:16 »

As it is uncertain what happened with the wormhole and all, maybe the ones not on the ship actually are gone now. Heck of a weird excuse to throw away rather dull (imho) characters like Dwight and Cubert. To me they have always seemed like "the new spin on the Simpsons - they get another child!!!!111". Unfortunately.
Jezzem

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« Reply #606 on: 10-05-2009 00:23 »

So I finally watched the sneak preview animatic (Damn you dialup speed Broadband internets! Give me more data allowance a month ya jerk!) I can say that I really found it much more... I dunno better or funnier or something than I remember any of the sneak previews of the movies being. This makes me think that this episode will be really good when it airs...
CookiesOnTheFloor
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« Reply #607 on: 10-05-2009 00:25 »

Stupid question then, but why did Fry survive? Did I miss something or was it pot luck?...

don't have a clue he probably hid under something

Maybe Leela threw herself on top of him to shield him. Sounds like something she'd do.
Freako

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« Reply #608 on: 10-05-2009 00:28 »

Interesting, it seems they're going to make it so Fry and the Professor are the only ones that'll remember what happened.
Aki

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« Reply #609 on: 10-05-2009 00:29 »

Stupid question then, but why did Fry survive? Did I miss something or was it pot luck?...

don't have a clue he probably hid under something

Maybe Leela threw herself on top of him to shield him. Sounds like something she'd do.
Yes. That sounds... Hollywood.
CookiesOnTheFloor
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« Reply #610 on: 10-05-2009 00:38 »

Interesting, it seems they're going to make it so Fry and the Professor are the only ones that'll remember what happened.

Except Fry doesn't remember, I don't think. The Professor had to bring him up to date.
Freako

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« Reply #611 on: 10-05-2009 00:40 »

He knows anyway,

Well, time for me to get to work!
Curious Gorge

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« Reply #612 on: 10-05-2009 00:45 »

Looks interesting though it is slightly confusing. On the surface the rebirth 'noone remembers anything' idea could be a lame ass attempt at using the reset button to return everything back to normal...but isn't one of the later episodes to do with Fry always being late for dates with Leela or something along those lines? Doesn't sound like they're going to do a reset if that's true.

Wouldn't surprise me if they spent the majority of the first episode making it appear as a reset is inevitable before revealing the opposite. You know, just to fuck with people.

We've got a hell of a long wait until we find out though.
CookiesOnTheFloor
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« Reply #613 on: 10-05-2009 00:50 »

Looks interesting though it is slightly confusing. On the surface the rebirth 'noone remembers anything' idea could be a lame ass attempt at using the reset button to return everything back to normal...but isn't one of the later episodes to do with Fry always being late for dates with Leela or something along those lines? Doesn't sound like they're going to do a reset if that's true.

Wouldn't surprise me if they spent the majority of the first episode making it appear as a reset is inevitable before revealing the opposite. You know, just to fuck with people.

We've got a hell of a long wait until we find out though.

Wish we had a time machine...
Aki

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« Reply #614 on: 10-05-2009 00:52 »

I think the first episode will be about Fry and the Professor attempting to clone the remains of the others. Dunno how that will make up an entire episode though, but I'd love to see them try.

What do you think of the Anthology of Interest? Groening and Cohen always talked about how they would have loved making that into a bigger tradition... would you like it to become one? I would, but in that case high-quality shows, not like what Simpson's Treehouse of Horror turned out to become after seven episodes.
Nixons Head

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« Reply #615 on: 10-05-2009 00:54 »

Oh. Right. How silly of me; I cry pardon. *cough*

You want a real answer? Its not real maybe I dont know.... maybe the distance between the Earth and the Sun has changed affecting the gravity on Earth and making the aging process slower i.e. being able to live to 160+ years.
Aki

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« Reply #616 on: 10-05-2009 00:58 »

You want a real answer? Its not real maybe I dont know.... maybe the distance between the Earth and the Sun has changed affecting the gravity on Earth and making the aging process slower i.e. being able to live to 160+ years.
Man, that truly is what I call a real answer. Cheers!
Nixons Head

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« Reply #617 on: 10-05-2009 00:59 »

Thank you and I base that on absolutly nothing.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #618 on: 10-05-2009 01:02 »
« Last Edit on: 10-05-2009 01:03 »

Holy crap! This episode is going to be weird. How'd Fry survive? How'd Zapp "survive"? Will Bender be along to help (since his head works independently from his body)? What is the Professor's plan? I really want to know!

Good call on having Fry scream his head off (not literally, of course). For all intents and purposes the crew, which includes his  friends, close acquaintances, and, oh yeah, THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE, are dead, so nice of the writers to bring up the proper emotion he should feel (and several of the fans will feel as well).

From the looks of it, the rest's revivals will probably be the major focus of the episode. Since that's likely true, I think we can stomp quick solutions right out the bat. For example, if the Professor was going to clone their bodies, why wouldn't he have put their head's in jars? The Chronoton Pool from 409 will likely not be used, since that'd be too simple, and they need to fill 19 more minutes.

I'm just... wow! I honestly wasn't expecting this. Or I was expecting something similar, but didn't think they'd have the balls. I just hope the episode ends as "strangely touching" as Maurice remarked. You don't "kill" characters that so many people have grown attached to without it being a big deal. You don't bring characters back without it also being a big deal. The Star Trek writers knew that (II and III). Hopefully the Futurama writers do too.

June 10th, how I long for you!
Jezzem

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« Reply #619 on: 10-05-2009 01:11 »

I must admit that the last bit of that video kind of made me feel sick (not because there was dead people but because it was the dead Futurama cast... Excluding Fry and Farnsworth.)
CookiesOnTheFloor
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« Reply #620 on: 10-05-2009 01:11 »
« Last Edit on: 10-05-2009 01:14 »

Holy crap! This episode is going to be weird. How'd Fry survive? How'd Zapp "survive"? Will Bender be along to help (since his head works independently from his body)? What is the Professor's plan? I really want to know!

Good call on having Fry scream his head off (not literally, of course). For all intents and purposes the crew, which includes his  friends, close acquaintances, and, oh yeah, THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE, are dead, so nice of the writers to bring up the proper emotion he should feel (and several of the fans will feel as well).

Yeah, I'm so glad that scene wasn't played for laughs. Although of course that would have been damn near impossible to manage, even for the Futurama writers. Damn I wish we could have seen what happened next. I'm not sure I can survive until June! Angst...overload...must...rel ieve...tension... (insert  Fry's scream of anguish here).
were back baby!

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« Reply #621 on: 10-05-2009 01:14 »

I must admit that the last bit of that video kind of made me feel sick (not because there was dead people but because it was the dead Futurama cast... Excluding Fry and Farnsworth.)

agreed but i do love it how farnsworth doesn't care in the slightest.
Nixons Head

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« Reply #622 on: 10-05-2009 01:16 »

Well clearly they aren't "perminatly" dead because the other episode info has been leeked i.e. the Zapp and Leela episode and the Amy and Bender Episode.
CookiesOnTheFloor
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« Reply #623 on: 10-05-2009 01:16 »

I must admit that the last bit of that video kind of made me feel sick (not because there was dead people but because it was the dead Futurama cast... Excluding Fry and Farnsworth.)

agreed but i do love it how farnsworth doesn't care in the slightest.

Well, in fairness to Farnsworth, it's not that he doesn't care. It's that he's slightly dotty. But also a genius, thank god.
were back baby!

Near Death Star Inhabitant
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« Reply #624 on: 10-05-2009 01:19 »

Well clearly they aren't "perminatly" dead because the other episode info has been leeked i.e. the Zapp and Leela episode and the Amy and Bender Episode.

well duh why were they negotiating with the voice actors for so long, oh by the way katey sagal your characters dead do you still want to voice it 'yep' soz but its obvious there gonna be back.
Jezzem

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« Reply #625 on: 10-05-2009 01:19 »

Well clearly they aren't "perminatly" dead because the other episode info has been leeked i.e. the Zapp and Leela episode and the Amy and Bender Episode.

I'm aware that it's not permanent it just felt kind of weird to see them like that...
Nixons Head

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« Reply #626 on: 10-05-2009 01:20 »

Yes I know its obvious im just reminding people whos reactions seemed to be slightly over the top
were back baby!

Near Death Star Inhabitant
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« Reply #627 on: 10-05-2009 01:21 »

Yes I know its obvious im just reminding people whos reactions seemed to be slightly over the top

main thing is fry is ok
Nixons Head

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« Reply #628 on: 10-05-2009 01:22 »

Or so They would have you think.
CookiesOnTheFloor
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« Reply #629 on: 10-05-2009 01:23 »

Well clearly they aren't "perminatly" dead because the other episode info has been leeked i.e. the Zapp and Leela episode and the Amy and Bender Episode.

Regarding that episode...wonder how ol' Kif is going to handle this new affair? First his lady love sleeps with his hated boss and now she's in love with a machine! And Kif thought he'd suffered abject humiliation before! Poor little anthro-amphibian...
Smarty

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« Reply #630 on: 10-05-2009 01:24 »

Oh gosh, a video! I'm downloading it and watching it on my iPod since my computer's sound disappeared.
were back baby!

Near Death Star Inhabitant
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« Reply #631 on: 10-05-2009 01:25 »

Or so They would have you think.

touche nixon
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #632 on: 10-05-2009 01:26 »

Yes I know its obvious im just reminding people whos reactions seemed to be slightly over the top

If anything requires over-the-top reactions, this is it.
Aki

Professor
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« Reply #633 on: 10-05-2009 01:31 »

Well clearly they aren't "perminatly" dead because the other episode info has been leeked i.e. the Zapp and Leela episode and the Amy and Bender Episode.
Hm? I haven't heard of leaked infos. Where are these?
Gorky

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« Reply #634 on: 10-05-2009 01:32 »

That's a pretty, uh, shocking preview, there. Not bad, mind you--just unexpected. I think it's pretty funny that Farnsworth is the only one who remembers what happened in its entirety; it's an interesting change of pace for the usually-senile one to be the only person who recalls what, exactly, happened.

And I'm still not sure if the writers are going to hit the reset button entirely; it seems as if Fry's memory was more or less intact--he just didn't recall what happened in the few moments before the ship flew into the wormhole. I stand by my belief that "rebirth" doesn't mean "messed-up mind-fuck that wipes the characters' memories completely"; perhaps the "strangely touching" aspect that Maurice LaMarche mentioned has to do with some closure between Fry and Leela...or at least something that leaves things open for the next episode.
CookiesOnTheFloor
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« Reply #635 on: 10-05-2009 01:33 »
« Last Edit on: 10-05-2009 01:34 »

Yes I know its obvious im just reminding people whos reactions seemed to be slightly over the top

If anything requires over-the-top reactions, this is it.



I'll say. I don't care if they're fictional, these characters mean something to me. Not to get too sticky, but not reacting viscerally to that final scene would be like laughing when Mufasa died in Lion King or when the kid was forced to shoot his dog in Old Yeller. Or more on topic - it'd like NOT wanting to cry at the end of Jurassic Bark. You'd have to be as hard and cold as Bender to not feel a slight shock at the sight of Leela and Zoidberg looking like cartoon trout when a cartoon cat gets through with it. Eccckkk....
Nixons Head

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« Reply #636 on: 10-05-2009 01:36 »

Hm? I haven't heard of leaked infos. Where are these?

http://www.peelified.com/index.php?topic=17870.msg1068937#msg1068937
Aki

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« Reply #637 on: 10-05-2009 01:44 »

I really wonder how the characters will be "reborn". It can't be very simple (heads in jars / cloning / reversed fossilisation) because then the professor would have done it already.
Cool, thanks.
Tedward

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« Reply #638 on: 10-05-2009 01:50 »

Yikes. I agree with all the feelings of shock and utter excitement. I was a little bothered by the Comedy Central joke since it was similar to the rather silly beginning of BBS, but this time the tone was indeed a bit different, specifically a bit more urgent and for a good reason.

I'm just... wow! I honestly wasn't expecting this. Or I was expecting something similar, but didn't think they'd have the balls. I just hope the episode ends as "strangely touching" as Maurice remarked. You don't "kill" characters that so many people have grown attached to without it being a big deal. You don't bring characters back without it also being a big deal.

Well, I certainly don’t want to start any argument with you over this, but there was a similar moment involving just Kif in BWAAB which did end up being less of a big deal than it would have deserved, but we both know that it shouldn’t have happened in the first place and that this episode is presumably going to be nothing like that at all. I too wish nothing but the best for the new season and hope that this bolder-seeming path the writers are taking pays off!
Aki

Professor
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« Reply #639 on: 10-05-2009 01:59 »

Yikes. I agree with all the feelings of shock and utter excitement. I was a little bothered by the Comedy Central joke since it was similar to the rather silly beginning of BBS, but this time the tone was indeed a bit different, specifically a bit more urgent and for a good reason.

I'm just... wow! I honestly wasn't expecting this. Or I was expecting something similar, but didn't think they'd have the balls. I just hope the episode ends as "strangely touching" as Maurice remarked. You don't "kill" characters that so many people have grown attached to without it being a big deal. You don't bring characters back without it also being a big deal.

Well, I certainly don’t want to start any argument with you over this, but there was a similar moment involving just Kif in BWAAB which did end up being less of a big deal than it would have deserved, but we both know that it shouldn’t have happened in the first place and that this episode is presumably going to be nothing like that at all. I too wish nothing but the best for the new season and hope that this bolder-seeming path the writers are taking pays off!
I never really felt Kif being dead... It somehow was obvious all along that he would return. Dunno why.
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