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totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #600 on: 08-08-2009 14:53 »

What's your other source?
Sorry, I'm not at liberty to say. I've been reporting on animation and voice actors since 1999 and sometimes sources decline to be named or directly quoted for whatever reason, and if I didn't honor their wishes I'd lose access to my sources. Let's just say it's someone "close to the cast" for now.

Not that I want to sound skeptical, but...

Bollocks. You've not come forth with any information that's not from Facebook or other websites. Until you offer convincing evidence you've a source that's "close to the cast" (or even that you're some kind of reporter) I'm calling bullshit on your claims. As far as I'm concerned, you're another nobody who signed up to PEEL to make people think you've got some kind of importance.

If you'd been "reporting on animation and voice actors" since 1999, howcome we've never seen you around here before? Huh?

Being a part of PEEL and following the fortunes of Futurama has taught most of us to be wary of statements that have no backup.

Folks, I'd disregard anything this guy says until it's confirmed by some mainstream source - which is probably where he gets his information from anyways.
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« Reply #601 on: 08-08-2009 15:32 »

What's your other source?
Sorry, I'm not at liberty to say. I've been reporting on animation and voice actors since 1999 and sometimes sources decline to be named or directly quoted for whatever reason, and if I didn't honor their wishes I'd lose access to my sources. Let's just say it's someone "close to the cast" for now.

Not that I want to sound skeptical, but...

Bollocks. You've not come forth with any information that's not from Facebook or other websites. Until you offer convincing evidence you've a source that's "close to the cast" (or even that you're some kind of reporter) I'm calling bullshit on your claims. As far as I'm concerned, you're another nobody who signed up to PEEL to make people think you've got some kind of importance.

If you'd been "reporting on animation and voice actors" since 1999, howcome we've never seen you around here before? Huh?

Being a part of PEEL and following the fortunes of Futurama has taught most of us to be wary of statements that have no backup.

Folks, I'd disregard anything this guy says until it's confirmed by some mainstream source - which is probably where he gets his information from anyways.

Unfortunately, tnuk, you're a jerk.  I got in touch with the author Voice Actors in the News (http://voiceactors.wordpress.com/) via e-mail, I talked about the good people at PEEL, and he said he would indeed intend to join the forums to provide more information upfront.

What he says is credible and I can stand in for them.

Folks, I'd disregard anything totalnerduk says until he starts not being an idiot - which is probably what he is anyway.
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« Reply #602 on: 08-08-2009 16:07 »

Guys, guys... in my eyes you're all jerks.
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« Reply #603 on: 08-08-2009 16:46 »

Guys, guys... in my eyes you're all jerks.

That's my philosophy.
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« Reply #604 on: 08-08-2009 17:00 »

hmm and in my opinion no one here is jerk unless proven by court
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« Reply #605 on: 08-08-2009 17:19 »

Another good reason not to use forums too often. I'll go back to my hole now.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #606 on: 08-08-2009 17:47 »
« Last Edit on: 08-08-2009 17:49 by totalnerduk »

What's your other source?
Sorry, I'm not at liberty to say. I've been reporting on animation and voice actors since 1999 and sometimes sources decline to be named or directly quoted for whatever reason, and if I didn't honor their wishes I'd lose access to my sources. Let's just say it's someone "close to the cast" for now.

Not that I want to sound skeptical, but...

Bollocks. You've not come forth with any information that's not from Facebook or other websites. Until you offer convincing evidence you've a source that's "close to the cast" (or even that you're some kind of reporter) I'm calling bullshit on your claims. As far as I'm concerned, you're another nobody who signed up to PEEL to make people think you've got some kind of importance.

If you'd been "reporting on animation and voice actors" since 1999, howcome we've never seen you around here before? Huh?

Being a part of PEEL and following the fortunes of Futurama has taught most of us to be wary of statements that have no backup.

Folks, I'd disregard anything this guy says until it's confirmed by some mainstream source - which is probably where he gets his information from anyways.

Unfortunately, tnuk, you're a jerk.  I got in touch with the author Voice Actors in the News (http://voiceactors.wordpress.com/) via e-mail, I talked about the good people at PEEL, and he said he would indeed intend to join the forums to provide more information upfront.

What he says is credible and I can stand in for them.

Folks, I'd disregard anything totalnerduk says until he starts not being an idiot - which is probably what he is anyway.

I'll cheerfully admit that in this case I was wrong, but I'm sick and tired of people saying "I know x 'cause I know person y, but you'll just have to trust me on that, and suck up to me if you want to know anything else. Which it seemed like that guy was doing.

I was wrong. Happy to be wrong in this case. But I don't think it was idiotic to maintain a degree of skepticism.

As for being a jerk, I've never claimed not to be. But people disregarding anything I say is probably not advisable. I'm usually a voice of sanity and reason.
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« Reply #607 on: 08-08-2009 17:49 »

I was only harsh on you because you were harsh on him.  I wasn't objecting your scepticism, just your "rebuttal".

When we come around and get decent members like this, I just want to avoid scaring them off.
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« Reply #608 on: 08-08-2009 17:56 »

I was only harsh on you because you were harsh on him.  I wasn't objecting your scepticism, just your "rebuttal".

Whilst I cheerfully apologise to Voiceroy, I'm still quite annoyed with you. If you hadn't actually known who he was, you'd probably have been posting in the same vein as me. To advise people to "ignore anything I say" until I "stop being an idiot" is hardly productive. It is in fact likely to lead to people thinking that it's a good idea to discount my posts out of hand for no good reason. That's something I struggled against on PEEL at one time, due to some unfortuante real-world events which crossed over onto the forums. I've no desire to revisit those times.

Back on topic, I'd welcome any news voiceroy can provide now that I'm satisfied as to his credentials - which I maintain I was right to doubt until evidence was presented - and it'd be particularly nice if we had tidbits of information that were PEEL exclusive.

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« Reply #609 on: 08-08-2009 18:17 »

and quoting Fry "in the end everything goes back to normal...." [from "When aliens attack"]
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« Reply #610 on: 08-08-2009 18:25 »

I was only harsh on you because you were harsh on him.  I wasn't objecting your scepticism, just your "rebuttal".

Whilst I cheerfully apologise to Voiceroy, I'm still quite annoyed with you. If you hadn't actually known who he was, you'd probably have been posting in the same vein as me.

At least I would attempt at research.  The mere fact that Voiceroy in the two posts he posted thanked me should be any indication.  Now secondly, a simple Google search would have gotten you this.

The second result is of particular interest, as you can see you are now presented a full name of a person, which now means you should continue to google this particular name.  At which, you discover certain clues, such as the open letter to Variety and The Hollywood Reporter, which you might recall I already did tell you about.

In short, there is enough clues out there to consult you before opening your mouth.  But I am still willing to take it back calling you an idiot, because deep down, I do not believe you are one.  I was just slightly offended by your post.
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« Reply #611 on: 08-08-2009 18:31 »

In tnuk's defense, I can understand the skepticism. But thanks for clearing this up, Svip; it's great to have a contact like this dorkin' it up with us here at PEEL. Thanks in advance for any information you may be able to provide us with, Voiceroy.

In less jolly news, it occurs to me that the new season of Futurama will probably wind up premiering the summer before I go to college. Or at least that is my hope. If it airs in the fall of 2010, I'm going to be way too busy *shudder* furthering my education to actually watch the new episodes (assuming I even have access to cable TV at that point). At any rate, though, seeing those pictures from the table-read fills my little nerdy heart with a mix of glee and excitement.
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« Reply #612 on: 08-08-2009 18:36 »

At least I would attempt at research. 

I'm lazy. Takes quite a bit to pique my curiosity to the point where I'm willing to do my own legwork.

I expect people to provide me with information when I ask for it, because I'm self-absorbed and arrogant enough to think that they have literally nothing in their schedule that could be more important than answering my query.
In tnuk's defense, I can understand the skepticism.

Thanks, Gorky. I think we're all friends again though. The spat has passed.

If you're too busy furthering your education to watch the new episodes, I'm sure that there are many people here who will be willing to synopsise them for you. There's always the option of waiting for the DVDs as well. Not that either of those will be a comfort to you.

I'm going to shut up for a while now.
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« Reply #613 on: 08-08-2009 18:47 »

Well, the press-release said mid-2010, which I interpret as the summer, so I'm still holding out hope that I'll be able to see the new episodes as they premiere. And, actually, airing the show in the summer might garner it some huge ratings (especially if Fox chooses to broadcast it, because the episodes would most likely be ensured a good time-slot on Sunday night with reruns of other animated fare). And it would still probably be prudent for CC to air it in the summer, simply because the competition would only really be coming from reality shows on network TV, and a few cable-originals. Not that I think the show would be unable to hold its own if it aired in the fall; I just know that it would be a hell of a lot easier for me, personally, if it aired in the summer.
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« Reply #614 on: 08-08-2009 19:58 »

And to Chug_a_Bug:

Katey gives the reason in her TVSquad why they were asking for a pay raise: "We wanted what's fair."

Considering the show is on for a 6th season (which will bump it over the 100 episode landmark), and a potential movie in development, and that the show might return to FOX as well, it stands to reason that they would negotiate for a pay raise. When the show his 100 eps, FOX stands to make huge profits from syndication. The actors have been a vital part of the show's success and for me at least that justifies their request for a pay raise.

However, what they were asking was nowhere near to what Variety and The Hollywood Reporter stated, and they continue to report the same error in their updated coverage in spite of the fact it that their statement was proven false.

Keep in mind that the media source that first broke the news was The Toronto Star which Moe gave the scoop to, and that article stated:

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The compromise agreement, with the studio paying more and the actors accepting less, comes after the announcement of a 26-episode pick-up here by Comedy Central. [Emphasis mine.]
That was an indirect quote from Moe. So please don't believe the crap that Variety is reporting about what the cast was asking and what they allegedly finally settled for.

Oh sure, I'm aware of that. My comment wasn't meant to be critical, if thats what you were inferring, only that it clears up what the dispute was all about. Good luck to them, I say.
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« Reply #615 on: 08-09-2009 06:55 »

Has anybody been able to ask around or zoom in on Moe's pictures to find out the episode's title?
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« Reply #616 on: 08-09-2009 07:47 »

If it airs in the fall of 2010, I'm going to be way too busy *shudder* furthering my education to actually watch the new episodes.

A terrible shame. But... there is... the internet.
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« Reply #617 on: 08-09-2009 16:57 »

If it airs in the fall of 2010, I'm going to be way too busy *shudder* furthering my education to actually watch the new episodes.

I don't want to hear that kind of crap. You can spare a half hour once a week, easily. I did it and unfortunatly will be doing it again all too soon.
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« Reply #618 on: 08-09-2009 17:02 »

Thanks for the pep-talk, Frisco. I don't know what got into me. Neglecting Futurama for college? And I call myself an obsessive nerd!
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« Reply #619 on: 08-09-2009 17:38 »

It's okay, Gorky. You're forgiven. Just don't this happen ever again.  big grin
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« Reply #620 on: 08-09-2009 19:18 »

Thanks for the pep-talk, Frisco. I don't know what got into me. Neglecting Futurama for college? And I call myself an obsessive nerd!
you can study and watch futurama. i see no negatives:D
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« Reply #621 on: 08-10-2009 11:12 »

Quote from: Voiceroy link=topic=17869.msg1055717#msg1055717
I hope you asked Moe for permission to lift his photos. Moe's usually pretty cool about that kinda thing IF you ask his permission (as other VAs have been with me when they've donated other photos for my blog and the "Voice Actor Appreciation Group" I host), but you really should ask for his permission before using his personal photos. It's the right thing to do.

Oh boo hoo.

Actually once they're uploaded to Facebook they're the property of Facebook.
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« Reply #622 on: 08-11-2009 01:56 »

from the future of futurama group on facebook:

"Maurice LaMarche wants you all to know, after today's table read at 20th Century Fox, Episode One of Season 6 kicks ass! John, Billy, Katey & Tress were brilliant! David X. Cohen & Matt Groening's script was hilarious, and strangely, touching. You guys are gonna LOVE this episode in nine or ten months! What a fantastic way to get back into Futurama, The Series!"

for anyone on Facebook join this group as Moe sends updates to the group!!!
 
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« Reply #623 on: 08-11-2009 02:05 »

@bendersfender: I know it's a long thread, but you could at least check a page or two back before repeating information: http://www.peelified.com/index.php?topic=17869.msg1055603#msg1055603

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« Reply #624 on: 08-11-2009 02:12 »

oops sorry I did check but after 3 pages back I thought I was safe smile
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #625 on: 08-11-2009 02:15 »

Don't sweat it. We're all excited about Futurama's return and I can understand missing a few details in wanting to share that excitement.
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« Reply #626 on: 08-11-2009 02:21 »
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sort of off topic but does anyone get the feeling from listening to commentary from the seasons that Matt really hates Fox. I was listening to episode three of disc one season one and he was going on about how Fox was forcing them to make episode Three not in space at all(I, roommate) than after it aired Fox then said it sucked and they needed more space episodes. just thought it worth mentioning.
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« Reply #627 on: 08-11-2009 02:23 »

Well of course nobody LIKES fox.
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« Reply #628 on: 08-11-2009 02:47 »

Well of course nobody LIKES fox.

Damn straight! But it's the most popular because of all the TV shows they are able to get (Don't know why they get all those shows). Futurama could take King Of The Hill's place (it's a good time slot) right after The Simpsons and before Family Guy. FOX sucks noodles but it's not like we have to LISTEN to their opinions or ideas or anything they do. But I do believe, like all Futurama fans, that CC would treat it better. (Duh)
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« Reply #629 on: 08-11-2009 02:50 »

Lot of these new people have the mythical gift of stating the monumentally obvious, don't they?
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« Reply #630 on: 08-11-2009 02:53 »

Lot of these new people have the mythical gift of stating the monumentally obvious, don't they?

lot of these old people have the gift of being gratuitously nasty to the new people, don't they?
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« Reply #631 on: 08-11-2009 02:59 »

Oh yeah. Hell yeah.
That's not as irritating though.
Smarty

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« Reply #632 on: 08-11-2009 03:29 »

Futurama could take King Of The Hill's place (it's a good time slot) right after The Simpsons and before Family Guy.

Yeah, it could...unfortunately the should-have-never-been-made Cleveland Show is taking that place. If it does horribly (which I hope it does) then Futurama could fit in. It kind of sucks that they canceled the long-running King of the Hill for another McFarland thing...now that whole block will consist of three Seth-created shows and only one other: The Simpsons.

Fox likes to cancel smart shows for crap.
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« Reply #633 on: 08-11-2009 06:40 »

Futurama could take King Of The Hill's place (it's a good time slot) right after The Simpsons and before Family Guy.

Yeah, it could...unfortunately the should-have-never-been-made Cleveland Show is taking that place. If it does horribly (which I hope it does) then Futurama could fit in. It kind of sucks that they canceled the long-running King of the Hill for another McFarland thing...now that whole block will consist of three Seth-created shows and only one other: The Simpsons.

Fox likes to cancel smart shows for crap.

Damn it, I forgot about the Cleveland Show. Why the hell are the idiots of the world taking over?
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« Reply #634 on: 08-11-2009 16:47 »

Damn it, I forgot about the Cleveland Show. Why the hell are the idiots of the world taking over?

Ever since the introduction of the Middle-Class in modern society.

You'll want to read my upcoming essay on why I hate and love the Middle Class.

As for Matt Groening's spite with FOX, well; Groening had a foot in the door with The Simpsons, when he picked a production company to produce Futurama.  And what 20th Fox in the first place?  Well, The Simpson originally began with The Tracey Ullman Show, which were already on Fox.

So I suppose it is more fate than choice that brought the shows to FOX.

Groening had never really liked Fox or FOX, but still remained there as it was the more obvious place to get his shows through.
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« Reply #635 on: 08-11-2009 19:31 »
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Damn it, I forgot about the Cleveland Show. Why the hell are the idiots of the world taking over?


Ever since the introduction of the Middle-Class in modern society.

You'll want to read my upcoming essay on why I hate and love the Middle Class.

As for Matt Groening's spite with FOX, well; Groening had a foot in the door with The Simpsons, when he picked a production company to produce Futurama.  And what 20th Fox in the first place?  Well, The Simpson originally began with The Tracey Ullman Show, which were already on Fox.

So I suppose it is more fate than choice that brought the shows to FOX.

Groening had never really liked Fox or FOX, but still remained there as it was the more obvious place to get his shows through.

That makes sence.

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« Reply #636 on: 08-12-2009 10:25 »
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Does 20th Fox own or half own the rights  to The Simpsons and Futurama then because if Matt Groening owned the rights to the shows himself he may of already moved one (Futurama possibly) or both shows to other networks right?

He also might not have a say in when, if ever, that The Simpsons comes to an end. I get the feeling that Futurama was originally going to be a natural progression from The Simspons for Groening and that The Simpsons were to be phased out much sooner and as this didn't happen Matt has started to lose interest in The Simpsons. I mean, a good example of this is to consider the quality of the episodes in The Simnpsons since late 1999. They have been steadily worse in the time since then until we get to a point now where only die-hards and some casual viewers are left watching the show (it's dropped to around the 7 million mark in America right, when it was a lot more than that in the past).

Would it be right to assume that Matt Groening had perhaps planned for Futurama to eventually take over the The Simpsons slot on Fox when the show may of finished? Fox, of course, from a financial point of view doesn't want that to happen though as by then and now The Simpsons is still making truckloads of money in merchandise.
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« Reply #637 on: 08-12-2009 15:41 »

now The Simspons is still making truckloads of money in merchandise.

hehehe simspons.
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« Reply #638 on: 08-12-2009 21:15 »

Awesome! They are recording the first episode of Futurama RIGHT NOW.
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« Reply #639 on: 08-12-2009 21:17 »

Ripped from the Facebook!

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Maurice LaMarche  is recording the first new episode of Futurama as I type this.
Posted at 3:10pm today.
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