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mowub

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« Reply #480 on: 07-26-2009 02:45 »

Gah... a guy like Matt should be above something like Family Guy, but instead he wishes he had created it instead of Seth. I read that he even shouts "I wish I had created Family Guy!" in the Simpsons Game.
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« Reply #481 on: 07-26-2009 02:47 »

You realize that's sort of MG's running joke right now....right?
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« Reply #482 on: 07-26-2009 03:14 »

You realize that's sort of MG's running joke right now....right?

That makes me feel a little better I guess.
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« Reply #483 on: 07-26-2009 03:22 »

1BDI: DXC showing up is interesting. Him talking to the VA's shows that they're on good terms at least. Did he do any autographs? And cool that they loved the comic.
Oh, and on the other plotline, that sounds awesome!

He left before the signing officially began, so he didn't actually do autographs.  That said, one of the staff members told us they were hoping a surprise 5th person would appear (they wouldn't say who, but I'm guessing Katey Sagal).  Said 5th person didn't appear, at least not while I was there.

@ Chug a Bug: That's exactly what the plot line made me think of.
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« Reply #484 on: 07-26-2009 04:01 »

Katey probably didn't come because she has nothing to advertise at Comic-Con other than Futurama (I didn't look closely enough to see if Sons of Anarchy has a panel so correct me if I'm wrong). All the other VA's have other shows to advertise (such as Johnny D for Batman) while she has only Futurama. It doesn't surprise me that she skipped a trip that would have only been signing a few autographs.
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« Reply #485 on: 07-26-2009 04:44 »

True, though she was supposed to appear at the "official" FOX signing this morning, so that's why she was at the back of my mind.

I've posted a description of what I saw today here.  Most of it is just a repeat of what I've said here, but I actually posted pictures so if you're interested in seeing them check it out.
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« Reply #486 on: 07-26-2009 10:03 »

@Chug a Bug: Spoilers can sometimes heighten the surprise (if they're vague enough), since you build up your own expectations of what will happen and then have those expectations subverted by what actually happens.

Hmm, I don't really want to get involved in semantics here but there are hints and then there are spoilers, a spoiler pretty much gives the game away, at least in my experiance. It's not called "spoiler" for nothing...
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« Reply #487 on: 07-26-2009 17:02 »
« Last Edit on: 07-26-2009 17:07 »

Actually I'm getting the feeling that Katey feels she's a little above the Futurama cast/caste.  She's a legit actress with years of experience under her belt.  She did only one voice, has never contributed to the commentaries in any way and has appeared at only one Comic Con.

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Katey probably didn't come because she has nothing to advertise at Comic-Con other than Futurama (I didn't look closely enough to see if Sons of Anarchy has a panel so correct me if I'm wrong). All the other VA's have other shows to advertise (such as Johnny D for Batman) while she has only Futurama. It doesn't surprise me that she skipped a trip that would have only been signing a few autographs.

There comes a time that a person has to realize the only reason that they have the gigs they have is because of the fans.  I don't mean for every celeb to have beers with every fan, but they should let the fans know they are appreciated.  Katey should really get off her high horse because it's "the handful of autographs" she'd be signing would be for the fans who are trying to make FOX pay her the amount of money she's demanding.

Truth to tell, my feelings towards her as the way she seems to treat the Futurama fans is that she's a Hollywood elitist.  Also, truth to tell, I wouldn't be overly upset if all the other VA's came back and Katey was replaced by Kate Mulgrew, Lauren Tom or anybody else who would view the fans as something other than a way to make a quick, easy buck and not worthy of spending a few minutes with.

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« Reply #488 on: 07-26-2009 17:21 »

Katey Sagal

I may be wrong, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that she's in fact very busy, which is why she doesn't tend to do the conventions and commentaries. I think Groening said that it's a job just getting her in to do the voicing.
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« Reply #489 on: 07-26-2009 17:22 »
« Last Edit on: 07-26-2009 17:23 »

As much as I agree with your feelings towards Katey, I find it hard to imagine anyone replacing her voice as Leela.  Though, as Wonderpants commented, she is very busy.

And I don't want Futurama to go on without one of its main characters like 8 Simple Rules.  That's just creepy.
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« Reply #490 on: 07-26-2009 17:32 »

And I don't want Futurama to go on without one of its main characters like 8 Simple Rules.  That's just creepy.

I'm starting to notice a recurring pattern here... Is it just me, or Katey Sagal brings bad-luck everywhere she goes?
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« Reply #491 on: 07-26-2009 17:51 »

As much as I agree with your feelings towards Katey, I find it hard to imagine anyone replacing her voice as Leela.  Though, as Wonderpants commented, she is very busy.

And I don't want Futurama to go on without one of its main characters like 8 Simple Rules.  That's just creepy.

"She was too busy," doesn't fly for this instance.

She already had ComicCon on her agenda.  She had a paid-for room in San Diego.  It would have done wonders for the fan base if she had showed up for an hour or so to autograph some comics and say "Thank you," to the plebians who are fighting for her to make more money an episode than most people make in a year.

Billy West is busy and he was dis-invited to the panel discussion.  He found a way to be there and sign autographs.  The same for any other cast member who kept their word and made an appearance.

Actually with this soap opera of making Futurama 2.0 on the cheap, screwing the writers, screwing the VA's, I'm really beginning to wish the thing stayed dead at "Devil's Hands".  They screwed the pooch with the lackluster DVD's and the first episode hasn't even been started yet and it's being to appear as if that's going to be fucked over also.

Yet FOX allows Seth to make a Family Guy epsodes about abortion that they won't even air but can't come off the bucks to make Futurama 2.0 the right way.
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« Reply #492 on: 07-26-2009 17:53 »

Even if the original VAs return, I'm witholding judgment on new Futurama.  It may be that I pretend there are only four seasons in the end...
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« Reply #493 on: 07-26-2009 18:07 »

I'm expecting this to be the next in Futurama news:

"To further alienate the hardcore fans, the names of the main characters will be changed to Leila, Frye, Amie, Flexer, Barnsworth, Jupiter and Iceburg.

They will be voiced by the crack stellar cast from the 1960's anime cartoon, Speed Racer.

Leila, a mutant with one boob is the leader of this cast of n'er do wells.  Frye, a alcoholic who often drinks himself into comas is best friends with Flexer, a meth-addicted robot who uses people to score his next hit.  Amie is the haughty permicuous lesbian who has eyes for Leila and her massive boob...."

Well, everybody gets the idea...

Ralph 'really in a rotten mood today' Snart
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« Reply #494 on: 07-26-2009 18:17 »

@Ralph:  You should be a writer for Family Guy with that!
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« Reply #495 on: 07-26-2009 18:30 »
« Last Edit on: 07-26-2009 18:59 »

I think I'm right in saying the only voice acting she does in anything is Leela whereas the others are specialist voice actors. Does she even have any other voices? Her Leela voice is pretty much her normal voice.

But yeah, she's in a different league, otherwise. MG pretty much said that he was lucky to get her.

Besides, I think she did 2007 as well as 2008 comic cons, didn't she? So thats two.
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« Reply #496 on: 07-26-2009 18:50 »

Yeah, I also get the vibe that Katey Sagal is kind of indifferent towards the fans, but I do think she genuinely respects the writers and appreciates the show. Ultimately, that's what's important to me. I'd probably feel a bit differently if I went to Comic-Con hoping to see her or get her autograph or something, but sitting at my laptop about 3,000 miles away, I don't particularly care if she's congenial. What matters to me is the work she does on the show; I can't imagine anyone else as Leela. (In Sagal's defense, I've never gotten the sense that she "phones it in" or whatever when it comes to her work on Futurama...unlike, say, those huge stars who lend their voices to animated films in exchange for a huge pay-off. She takes the work seriously enough, and she does an excellent job as Leela.)
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« Reply #497 on: 07-26-2009 19:06 »
« Last Edit on: 07-26-2009 19:12 »

I'm not convinced that she's indifferent, merely that she's busy. The other VA's aren't exactly there for altruistic reasons either, they're there to make money with their autographs. I'm guessing that she has better things to do, better paid things..
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« Reply #498 on: 07-26-2009 23:13 »

I hope all of the original voice actors return...including Katey Sagal...I just can't see anyone else being as good as them. Sure Billy, John and Maurice are the main players and it could work with just them and some soundalikes but it just wouldn't be the awesome Futurama we know and love.
KS doesn't do as much promotional work as the others but I do believe she loves the show and sees it as more than just a paycheck.
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« Reply #499 on: 07-27-2009 03:13 »

I dont know if this belongs in the news thread but what ever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owiUFHGmSKA

This is the man of 101 voices' take on futurama recasting
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« Reply #500 on: 07-27-2009 09:17 »

Ugh...really, really late. I've been really busy the last 2 days, had no real sleep, etc etc and never really had time to post.

I know everything that's been said about the Futurama panel's been said, but yeah, it was very, very underwhelming and I was disappointed. I kept thinking that them saying the cast wouldn't be there, them saying not to mention "you know what" would lead to the VAs having a surprise intro later in the panel to rally up the crowd, but it never came and I was kinda pissed that I sat through 3 panels (I'm a fan of Chuck, that was a GREAT panel, but I had to sit through *ugh* the FG and Cleveland Show panels) for this very anticlimactic panel. I was pissed enough that the cast wasn't there, but was even more pissed that they wouldn't even let us talk about the cast dispute and we had to beat around the bush the whole time with some BS questions along the way. I really felt sorry for DXC and MG, they seemed pretty bummed through the panel and tried to salvage the panel with some staff transcripts and prizes. Also, when DXC gave his own little speech about "you know what" at the end, he seemed pretty depressed, in effect, depressing me.

The upcoming plots seem pretty interesting, especially the Bender/Amy/Prop Infinity one and Zapp/Leela stranded. I'm only scared about how they'll handle the whole story, especially the satire on the Bender/Amy thing. It's really one of those things that would be pretty great if handled well or crash and burn if done badly. Also, where would Kif fit into this plot? However, there's no way I'm gonna watch if THE ORIGINAL CAST ISN'T BROUGHT BACK. I sent my hate mail already and I'm waiting, Fox.

It was nice to see the Futurama cast there for autographs...however I couldn't get in line...I didn't have time because I had a few more things to catch at the exhibit hall and I had a panel to get to, and Saturday was my last day. I really got to go all 4 days next time...

And here's my 2 cents about Katey Sagal, I really think her schedule rather than her indifference towards the fans was the real reason she wasn't with the rest of the cast. I got her autograph at least year's SDCC and she was a pretty sweet person and I was able to get into a pretty good, natural, unforced conversation with her. I don't know if I got special treatment, but she seemed pretty appreciative towards me.

And as for the whole con in itself, save for the depressing Futurama stuff, it was fantastic. Even though I got little real sleep and was out til midnight or later every night, the atmosphere was great enough to keep me going and I'm coming back next year where hopefully we'll have a nice, happy, entertaining Futurama panel with the cast back in place. *fingers crossed*
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« Reply #501 on: 07-28-2009 05:58 »

not any real news

sarah silverman will guest star on the simpsons as bart's girlfriend. Now they're stealing ideas from futurama
Gorky

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« Reply #502 on: 07-28-2009 06:01 »

Actually, they're stealing ideas from themselves, seeing as how the likes of Meryl Streep, Reese Witherspoon, and Sarah Michelle Gellar have already played Bart's various girlfriends.

And besides, it's not like Futurama and The Simpsons haven't shared guest stars in the past. Stephen Hawking comes to mind.
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« Reply #503 on: 07-28-2009 06:07 »

Ironically, I'm watching Meryl Streep on Conan as I read that.

Speaking of which, I'm very interested in finding out who these mystery guest stars they mentioned at the panel are. Hopefully they're actually interesting and not lame "it girls".
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« Reply #504 on: 07-28-2009 07:13 »

@i_c_:That's not ironic, that's coincidental!

On the Guest Stars: I just hope the guest stars either make sense within the context of the episode (Star Trek cast members, Stephen Hawking, and Al Gore are good examples of this) or play new characters (Robot Santa, Planet Express Ship- Female Personality, The Waterfalls). I don't like it when the guest star isn't important within the context of the episode and is just there for either an ego-baiting role or so David X could say he worked with some celebrity he admired (Pamela Anderson, Lucy Lui, and Pauly Shore are all examples of this).

My post on Guest Star use: http://www.peelified.com/index.php?topic=16354.msg1027852#msg1027852

A response post from Tedward, which I agree with: http://www.peelified.com/index.php?topic=16354.msg1028375#msg1028375
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« Reply #505 on: 07-28-2009 23:39 »

Speaking of which, I'm very interested in finding out who these mystery guest stars they mentioned at the panel are. Hopefully they're actually interesting and not lame "it girls".

Me too....I also hope they're not just shoehorned in like "look a guest star".....I don't know who they'd be able to get that would further the plot when they appear though.
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« Reply #506 on: 07-29-2009 22:58 »

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Futurama-Complete-Collection/12393

At least there are some good news.  The collection is to be released for all on 13 October and the description seems to indicate it will still be with the Bender head.
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« Reply #507 on: 07-30-2009 01:33 »

I don't get it.  Why would anyone spend $200 on the complete series when you can buy each season/movie seperately and only spend about $160?  Is that Bender head really worth an extra $40?
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« Reply #508 on: 07-30-2009 01:43 »

I don't get it.  Why would anyone spend $200 on the complete series when you can buy each season/movie seperately and only spend about $160?  Is that Bender head really worth an extra $40?

Possible.  Some might think so.  The hard limited notes from DXC and MG were certainly worth the extra cost, especially if you were going to Comic-Con anyway.
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« Reply #509 on: 07-30-2009 02:02 »

I notice on the back of the Bender Head there seems to be some sort of panel. If anybody bought it at Comic-Con, are the DVD's just stacked inside the head? If that's true, that's even less reason to buy the set.

I'd take (or keep, in my case) the art of the DVD seasons (that's box art and the sweet panoramic scenes) and the DVD movies (mostly ITWGY, which is the only one with a perfect cover (although, Bender's Game has some nice inside art and I appreciate what the Beast cover was trying to reference (old pulp monster movies), with the convenience of separate cases (and easily being able to fit on my DVD shelf) over the clunky Bender Head.

Plus, as Soylent Orange already mentioned, you can get the entire series for much cheaper elsewhere. I know about completionism, but I doubt casual fans have completionism in their minds (40$ cheaper to buy individual sets).
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« Reply #510 on: 07-30-2009 04:39 »

You can get each season of Futurama at Wal-mart for 14.95 and the 4 direct-to-DVD for $19.95 each - to get all would be $120.00 plus sales tax.
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« Reply #511 on: 07-30-2009 04:46 »

if they keep the actors, i'll buy the bender head collection if they don't, i will burn down a walmart
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« Reply #512 on: 07-30-2009 04:50 »

Why not do both?
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« Reply #513 on: 07-30-2009 06:04 »
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This is what the new show will become if they get rid of the cast

http://fredmasson.blogspot.com/2009/07/futurama-auditions.html

MAY XENU HAVE MERCY ON US ALL

I can't tell if zoidberg sounds jewish or arab
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« Reply #514 on: 07-30-2009 06:18 »

if they keep the actors, i'll buy the bender head collection if they don't, i will burn down a walmart

why not do both?
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« Reply #515 on: 07-30-2009 06:20 »
« Last Edit on: 07-30-2009 06:25 »

I think Svip and sO are the same person...

As for those pseudo-auditions: The thing is, they're not horrible. I mean, they sound little like the original characters, and they fail to amuse or compel, but they'd constitute passable acting on most other animated shows. And, honestly, they're decent facsimiles. (In fact, it kind of scares me, thinking of a Fox executive listening to audition tapes, nodding his head and going, "You know, this just might work." I mean, I want the original VAs back, and I still thought that guy did an okay job.)

But, y'know, new actors would never actually work in practice. Because the thing is, Futurama would cease to exist without the spirit behind the voices, the enthusiasm and the respect and the love that the actors themselves have for the material.

'Course, I'm preaching to the choir here.
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« Reply #516 on: 07-30-2009 08:08 »

All those auditions sounded the same. Kif was the only one that sounded anything like the original voice. Just goes to show how hard to replace these VA's are.
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« Reply #517 on: 07-30-2009 17:23 »

I think Svip and sO are the same person...

nope.  I'm pretty sure we're not even from the same country.
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« Reply #518 on: 07-30-2009 17:48 »

Maybe you were just floored by the banality of those auditions...

:O       :O
SWEET JESUS ON A STICK, those were absolutely terrible!  Seriously?  Fry especially, he sounds like... like...  I don't know...  *words fail*   Basically they sounded nothing like they should.   I thought Zapp was probably the only even remotely passable one, if I had to pick, but if that is seriously the general standard...
It really drives it home, how quality the current ones are.
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« Reply #519 on: 07-30-2009 19:29 »

At the very least, it drives home how organic and not generic the current voices are. That guy's basically tweaking his normal voice--much like Billy West does for Fry--and yet he's obviously not capable of the range of any of the real actors. Which really shows you how difficult it would be to re-cast the show with sound-alikes (or, y'know, wannabe sound-alikes)--the cast would probably triple in size.
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