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PEE Poll: what is you favourite movie?
beast with a billion backs   -27 (11.3%)
benders game   -36 (15%)
benders big score   -81 (33.8%)
into the wild green yonder   -96 (40%)
Total Voters: 240

Gorky

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« Reply #80 on: 03-19-2009 03:41 »
« Last Edit on: 03-19-2009 03:46 »

I think we've reached an impasse.  How big a departure BWABB actually was is related to how you feel about Fry and Leela's relationship in the series and BBS.  I clearly think less of it than you and many others, though there is no real way to measure it.  But if I'm underplaying it, you're definitely overplaying.

From where I'm standing, I count 9 episodes* in seasons 3 and 4  where their romance is a prominent part of the plot, out of 40.  And I think that's generous.  Their relationship has been all over the place; she has given him chances, and they have acted like nothing was going on all before.  The only way I could see them taking a step back is actively disliking each other, and that doesn't happen.

Although I still believe that TBWaBB would've made more sense if it had preceeded BBS, I don't think that completely ignoring the ship is a departure, story-wise, for Futurama. Like you point out, there are a lot of episodes that have nothing to do with Fry and Leela's relationship. But what the non-shippy episodes do have--and what Billion Backs lacks--is at least some warmth between the two of them. In TBWaBB, Fry and Leela don't even seem like friends--much less two people who have been on the cusp of romance for years. They're not friendly towards each other, and they're not even apathetic--I think they're downright mean. Leela's line to Fry at the Spaceport, about there being times where she thinks he should just go away, just pisses me off--not only is it unfunny, it's cruel. So I disagree with you there, about the active dislike between them--to me, they're both pretty cold in TBWaBB, in a way that makes no sense in the context of seasons three or four, or BBS.

Edit: Also, I agree with much of what you said, FistfulOAwesome. Very well-put. (I could argue, however, that dating Colleen was OOC. To me, it's reminiscent of the "Time Keeps on Slipping"/"I Dated a Robot" dilemma: Fry's crazy about Leela in the first, and he's hung-up on some random chick in the second. I think that's more about the writers being self-indulgent than it is about the fickleness of Fry's feelings towards Leela, though, so I let it slide.)
GalacticEntity

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« Reply #81 on: 03-19-2009 05:49 »

FistfullOAwesome: I'd like to thank you very much for taking the time to do this, and that my request wasn't lost amongst everything else.  But I gotta say, with the inclusion of the Indiana Jones line, I know all I need to to realize that we are never going to agree on this.

Your first paragraph states my feelings exactly, and Fry's hookup I agree with, but the rest is... I cannot find the words.  Really, to save a whole lot of time and typing, I must be too soft a critic to find all these things as OOC moments and failures of the movie.  I'm seeing a trend here: any problem someone has with BWABB, I disagreed with.  But since no one likes admitting to being faulted, or at least the only faulted one, I must declare that you take the smallest of molehills and turn them into the Mt Olympus of Mars.  I easily over-look these things, as I do when I heard sound in space and see planetary scale bastardized.  Unless, that is, I've already decided not to like something.  For example, horror movies are not my thing; for the most part I think they're lame, so I [unconsciously] rag on every little detail because that "justifies" my generalized opinion.  I'm not sure if that's what's happening here, but I think it's a certain possibility.

Regarding the OOC moments, I think they can all be easily argued one way or another because the characters are not that well defined.  But, all this is not to say I don't have any problems with the movie.  As noted earlier, I dislike 3 jokes for reminding me too much of Family Guy, I think Bender's side-story was a little too similar to "Fear of a Bot Planet", and I also didn't like the killing and return of Kif (a lesser move indeed, much like time travel.... *cough* BBS *cough*). 

Plus I doubt I will have anything new to bring to the table in terms of justifying their actions, but I do feel a kinda bad not giving your long post the time for a detailed response, so if you want it, I will comply.  Again, though, I see a very slim chance of either of us changing opinions.

Just like Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, fans and the general public were unbelievably dramatic and overly critical to the point where debating was useless.  Really, I find this whole night-and-day, absolute-best-or-absolute-worst approach to be beyond immature, and I hope that doesn't represent you views.

Gorky: In my opinion, you're reading too much into the jokes.  But if not, would it not make sense that Leela is a little bitter about Colleen?

I guess it's just me, but I don't think each line and action holds the weight that you guys seem to think.  Maybe I'm being to soft on the writers, maybe you guys are holding them to an unfair standard, or maybe there's some happy middle ground; but nonetheless, if the writers intended any of meanings you claim those lines and actions have, then we would see at least some consequences from them.  Looking at the effects, I say those causes are not there.  It would be nice if this show was as deep as you want it to be, but since it's not, I cannot bring myself to be so critical.
speedracer
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« Reply #82 on: 03-19-2009 12:10 »
« Last Edit on: 03-19-2009 15:59 »

Regarding the OOC moments, I think they can all be easily argued one way or another because the characters are not that well defined. 

Here's the rub:  any single action or line that seems dubious can be brushed aside.  If we take all the complaints about BWABB and scatter the moments around several episodes over the course of a season, they wouldn't provoke such criticism.  But when you have a whole bunch of these moments and weave them in an integral way into a single movie, the result is a severe change in characterization.

Exactly how much change in character one is willing to abide is obviously a matter of personal taste, but the extent to which it was done (and not just the romantic aspects, as Fistful has shown) in BWABB goes well beyond anything the series has done before.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #83 on: 03-19-2009 15:41 »
« Last Edit on: 03-19-2009 15:48 »

Galactic Unit: Speedracer represented my feelings pretty well.

For example, horror movies are not my thing; for the most part I think they're lame, so I [unconsciously] rag on every little detail because that "justifies" my generalized opinion.

This is sort of what I did. I genuinely wasn't enjoying BWABB (during the second half. I think most of the first half is pretty good (minus the parts I highlighted) and when I don't enjoy something I go into MST3K mode. If I liked or tolerated the movie like you do I probably wouldn't have noticed these things or cared.

Edit: Gorky's reply got me thinking. Anyone notice that the Fry has a girlfriend episodes were mostly dropped in seasons 3 and 4 (only Lui-bot and his Grandma in 3 and no one in 4). Seems to me even if not every episode referenced Fry and Leela's relationship the writers were certainly conscious of it.
Gorky

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« Reply #84 on: 03-19-2009 21:39 »
« Last Edit on: 03-19-2009 21:40 »

I guess it's just me, but I don't think each line and action holds the weight that you guys seem to think.  Maybe I'm being to soft on the writers, maybe you guys are holding them to an unfair standard, or maybe there's some happy middle ground; but nonetheless, if the writers intended any of meanings you claim those lines and actions have, then we would see at least some consequences from them.  Looking at the effects, I say those causes are not there.  It would be nice if this show was as deep as you want it to be, but since it's not, I cannot bring myself to be so critical.

I will admit that I'm sensitive to the characterizations of Fry and Leela in particular--on account of my well-documented, shameless shipping; but I don't feel as if expecting a modicum of kindness between them--after so many years of friendship, let alone specific episodes that seem to advance their relationship--is such a big deal. I know that Leela has always been kind of snarky towards Fry, and Fry has his moments of cruelty towards Leela, but their complete disregard for each other's well-being throughout TBWaBB is what bothers me the most. It just seems like such a major step back.

Gorky's reply got me thinking. Anyone notice that the Fry has a girlfriend episodes were mostly dropped in seasons 3 and 4 (only Lui-bot and his Grandma in 3 and no one in 4). Seems to me even if not every episode referenced Fry and Leela's relationship the writers were certainly conscious of it.

I think, in season four, the writers were definitely more focused on the development of Fry and Leela's relationship. That's why it seems strange for Leela to start dating a random guy in BBS; that's why it seems even stranger for Fry to start dating some random chick in TBWaBB. Not only does it seem like a bit of a regression in terms of the arc of season four--but, in Fry's case, it seems like a regression in terms of BBS. It doesn't ruin my enjoyment of BBS or TBWaBB, but it does baffle me just the same.
J.Fry
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« Reply #85 on: 03-19-2009 22:16 »

My favourite movie is BBS for now. Green Yonder is a close 2nd.


@current talk over here:

I myself didnt like the beast much either.... but that has to do more with its pacing problems. It seemed like these 4 "episode" parts were forced into a movie (didnt care much for the "Bender and his Club" plot too).

I actually didnt notice that Fry and Leela were mean against each other. Guess I have to see the movie again.

As for both dating some random people:
If Leela is not interested (in that way ->  flirt ) to Fry, its of course that Fry goes to date a "random chick". He might still be in love with Leela, but his life still has to move on. Also the relationship with that chick is still different then what it would be with Leela. With Leela it would be a serious rel.ship, with that chick its just Fry getting some fun out of it.
Bendersfan1221

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« Reply #86 on: 03-20-2009 00:48 »

ITGWY
BWaBB
BG
BBS
Gorky

Space Pope
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« Reply #87 on: 03-20-2009 02:35 »

With Leela it would be a serious rel.ship, with that chick its just Fry getting some fun out of it.

But that's not how the Colleen relationship is played, IMO. To me, it's a serious relationship by Fry's standards--hell, he admits to loving her and agrees to move in with her. Then, when things don't work out, he goes and tries to commit celestial suicide. I think that's pretty out-of-character for him; even if he'd been so hung-up on Leela, the woman he's claimed to love "since the day he came to the future", the whole leaving-this-universe thing would be a bit much. It just feels like the writers messed with Fry's character for the sake of their big ol' monster story, and I don't particularly appreciate that.

(Oh, yeah, and welcome to PEEL, J.Fry. It's a fun place, ain't it?)
J.Fry
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« Reply #88 on: 03-20-2009 12:07 »

hehe... yeah, thanks!

Well youre actually right, (and again I dont remember the movie to be that harsh, definetly have to check it out again). But youve got to look at Fry in this way:

On season 3 he is snu snuing is way on the amazonian planet. And in the next episode there came up already the romantic "Parasites Lost" story.
Later on on the Season its all romantic again with "Time keeps on slippin"... and then after that its already the "I dated a robot" with Lucy Liu.

Fry had always alot of compassion for the ladies (like Lucy Liu bot, Michelle, that fish-woman from Atlanta) and at the end he regrets it, as you can see on each of these episodes. (OK he doesnt regret that thing with the Lucy Liu bot, but it was an unhealthy relationship anyhow... as said by that movie in the ep.)

Well I guess you could say he makes stupid stuff while on a relationship.
El-Man

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« Reply #89 on: 03-20-2009 17:12 »

The entire universe was acting OOC in the final chapter. So this creature forcefully jams its apparent testicles in their necks and they want to marry it! I really don't feel this needs comment.
Leela was OOC again at the end. She clearly doesn't like the creature and yet at the end she professes a love for it! Some people claim that she was just choosing the better of two existences between living with the entire biological universe within the creature or living with the robots on Earth. If that were true then why is she still in love after Bender rescues them?

My own feeling on this is - Yivo was chemically influencing everyone schlim(sp?) tentacled. Leela is the only one to resist this, because she never gets tentacled, but once dragged into Yivo's universe, she can't help exposure to the stuff, and comes around. Also explains why everyone's so annoyed with each other at the end - they're undergoing withdrawal.

I wouldn't put it past an entity as jealous and insecure as Yivo...
RS 2thou

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« Reply #90 on: 03-25-2009 14:36 »

Here my vote.
BG closely followed by
ITWGY
BWABB
BBS
Future Shock

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #91 on: 03-26-2009 13:12 »

My favourite is Benders Big Score because it was the clever one, going back to the past and re-counting Fry's life. It had the cleverness of the time-travel, and ended on a much better note than ITWGY.
At second is The Beast With A Billion Backs. It, too was packed with the science fiction Futurama is about, and had Bender with his own group of robots which would turn out to be disaster for Bender, and others. It felt more like a "movie" than the last 2.
Third is Into The Wild Green Yonder. People just choose this one because it's the latest (but not necissarily the greatest) so they haven't got bored of it yet. The Fry-Leela ending was poor, and it derives a great Futurama fan for an ending completely dedicated to it. All Leela did was say she loved him back, then they... Come on, not enough! The movie felt awkward and fast-paced, and it wasn't what I was waiting for.
Fourth is Benders Game. It's ran out of ideas, and they break the ship just to go have Leela a lesson which slightly contradicts the ending of the fourth movie. Don't ask me how. Then the Dungeons and dragons and lord of the rings - Plain stupid. It's way too much of a parody, and it wasn't very good. Needless to say, Bender went back to the HAL Institute. Nothing new here.

By the way, I'm new to Peelified, and it took me weeks to be able to register.
speedracer
Bending Unit
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« Reply #92 on: 03-27-2009 22:53 »

Third is Into The Wild Green Yonder. People just choose this one because it's the latest (but not necissarily the greatest) so they haven't got bored of it yet. The Fry-Leela ending was poor, and it deprives a great Futurama fan for an ending completely dedicated to it. All Leela did was say she loved him back, then they... Come on, not enough! The movie felt awkward and fast-paced, and it wasn't what I was waiting for.

Don't mean to put you on the spot...but I am curious to know what you wanted to see from the movie. 

The 'ship received very little airtime during ITWGY, but to me every word Fry and Leela said to each other seemed precious.  I believe Leela when she says she loves Fry.  I'm pretty sure Fry believes it too.
Future Shock

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #93 on: 03-28-2009 08:01 »

I was expecting more Fry and Leela, I mean, not much to it really in the movie. The showdown just came with choice words, and a short snippet of things to come! But it was disappointing. Wouldn't there be more to the start of it? Why couldn't a plot have been related to it? Into The Wild Green Bleh could have been more Fry+Leela dedicated.




Fry+Leela=*sniff*
Fry+Leela+Wormhole=aw cummon
Gorky

Space Pope
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« Reply #94 on: 03-28-2009 21:07 »
« Last Edit on: 03-28-2009 21:08 »

I don't necessarily agree that the ship got little play in ItWGY. As others have mentioned, both in this thread and the Green Yonder review thread, the ship was handled subtly; it wasn't as heavy-handed as, say, BBS, but I still think the writers did an excellent job keeping that aspect of the story alive. To me, the ship starts about 10 minutes into the movie, during that scene in the restaurant: Leela expresses a sincere concern for Fry's well-being (what with his tin-foil hat-wearing ways), and Fry suggests (in a funny-skeezy way) that they go see a movie. From then on, I'd say we get a number of nice moments where Fry and Leela's relationship gets a nod: Fry referring to Leela as "the chick I love"; Leela's tearful goodbye to Fry at Planet Express; Bender referring to Fry as "Leela's one weakness"; Fry trying to relay a message to Leela via Frida (where he refers to himself as "her sweet goofbag", which I find pretty damn cute); Leela saying that "the Fry [she] knows" wouldn't be working against her; Leela's anger that Fry is apparently working against the feministas (and Fry's subsequent plea for Leela to just trust him); "You're you, that's all I need to know" and "I destroy myself to save you"; and then the "I love you"s and the kiss.

Personally, I think their relationship was written with a lot of depth, maturity, and respect, which are three things that a lot of the shippy episodes from the series lacked. They also portrayed the affection between Fry and Leela as mutual, which was nice to see.

And so I think that the ending only seems abrupt. To me, it may have felt unsatisfying because we didn't want ItWGY to end, since that meant the possible end of Futurama. Also, I think we're so used to endings where Fry and Leela come so close without actually crossing the line. In my opinion, the "I love you"s crossed that line, erased it, and left the future open for a real relationship between the two characters. Which, as a shipper, I appreciated immensely.
Chug a Bug

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« Reply #95 on: 03-28-2009 22:15 »
« Last Edit on: 03-28-2009 22:24 »

I think the problem some people have with it is that the shippyness seemed tagged on in ITWGY, rather than being a central part of the plot as it was with BBS. The plot would have been just as well served without it, although I don't have a problem with it personally. I appreciated it too.

My ranks:

ITWGY
BBS
BG
BWABB

BBS and ITWGY are close, BBS is the better of the two for the most part until it gets to the the Leelu subplot when it gets very dull indeed, I almost fast forward through those parts. ITWGY is the more consistant so it pips it at the post for me. BG is pretty decent for the most part until the LOTR/D&D parody which was pretty bad. I just loved the demolition derby with all it's in-jokes.. catch them if you can. As for BWABB... lets not go there. It was awful, period.
speedracer
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« Reply #96 on: 03-29-2009 00:12 »
« Last Edit on: 03-29-2009 00:13 »

Well, the plot could have gotten along without the context of the 'ship, but it would have felt rather austere in my opinion.  When Fry gives Leela his blessing as she flees Earth, the implication there is that Fry is willing to sacrifice his own happiness and desires in order to support her.  Without the 'ship, it would just have been a case of Leela going off on some crazy crusade.  The same goes for Fry attempting to annihilate himself at the end -- maybe he is capable of destroying himself to save the universe in a generalized sense, but having Leela involved gives it more poignancy.  The 'ship adds natural depth to the plot and vice-versa.

I really don't know what additional exposition the writers could have given the 'ship.  Having Fry and Leela going on a series of romantic outings (or Fry attempting to ask Leela out) during the beginning of the movie would not have added anything, in my opinion.  That's not really what their relationship is about, anyway.
Curious Gorge

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« Reply #97 on: 03-29-2009 00:24 »
« Last Edit on: 03-29-2009 00:30 »

As Speedracer said, the plot would have lacked a certain something without the F/L element. Plus the resolution to the main plot only came about because of Leela deciding to trust Fry despite everything that had gone on suggesting that he was the enemy. You'll notice that after she hands over the detonator everyone, even Bender, chastises her for doing so. She was the only one who trusted him even though, given the events from her perspective, she had by far the least reason to.

That was a pretty big example of the F/L factor playing a major part in the overall plot.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #98 on: 03-29-2009 05:35 »

Gotta agree with Gorky, Speedracer, and Curious Gorge here. The ship was very well handled in ITWGY.

On a personal note, I had had enough of the "Epic" F/L stories anyhow. Their relationship is not tied with the fate of the universe (at least not yet) and shouldn't be treated as such. It seems kind of childish to think that love is the only thing that matters (I think the third book in the 2001 series made a point of listing other important motives) and I'm glad ITWGY didn't make it the complete focus of the movie. When all life in the universe could have gone extinct the romance between two people seems a little less important. This is sounding a little meaner than I meant.

What I mean is that I think that Fry and Leela's ongoing story is one of the best parts of Futurama and one of the things that made it such a great series (episodes like Parasites Lost and The Devils Hands are Idol Playthings are frequently listed as fan favorites). But to keep it a will they/won't they level would have annoyed everybody. To make it big and epic each time they have a story about their relationship is a mockery of real relationships.

Real people fall in love over long periods of time. Sure there are love at first-sight moments but a real relationship still needs to be built on a love that doesn't need showiness in order to flourish. ITWGY succeeded in letting us see how Fry and Leela in a real relationship would look.

P.S. Future Shock: I think one of your problems is that the film format required a different writing for F/L. An episode of the show is only 22 minutes so they had to be showy in order to make the story work. Since ITWGY is feature length it allowed the writers a slow burn style of writing. They had more time to dedicate to the relationship so they weaved it into the plot rather than making it the whole show. This had the side effect of allowing the writers more time to think about how Fry and Leela would act. This is part of the reason why I think ITWGY does so well at handling their relationship (I might even consider it the best F/L episode).

P.P.S. If any of my posts seem confusing, scatterbrained, or contradictory it is because I like to leave my thoughts as I type them (this is all only lightly censored and edited).
Jezzem

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« Reply #99 on: 03-29-2009 09:21 »

ITWGY
BBS
BG
BWABB

It's not so much that I hate BWABB I just thought that ITWGY and BBS were the best two and that BG was just better enough to put it above BWABB
Future Shock

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #100 on: 03-29-2009 11:31 »

I heard Matt Groening "pushed" for the ITWGY ending. Bit of a bad writer, no?
Jezzem

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« Reply #101 on: 03-29-2009 13:19 »

Considering that a lot of people DID like the ending, no.
Future Shock

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #102 on: 03-29-2009 13:37 »

Dang right, Jezzie! But I would have preferred a different kind of ending. By saying this, I guess I'll be a prototype now.
Wonderpants

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« Reply #103 on: 03-29-2009 13:57 »

When Fry gives Leela his blessing as she flees Earth, the implication there is that Fry is willing to sacrifice his own happiness and desires in order to support her.  Without the 'ship, it would just have been a case of Leela going off on some crazy crusade. 

This.

The problem with the Fry/Leela relationship in ItWGY is that if would have felt a lot more complete and natural if it had followed on straight from BBS. Leela discovering that Lars, the only man she could ever love, was a double of Fry, would have accounted for her behaviour around Fry in ItWGY, just as Fry grew up a bit in BBS by letting Leelu go and then trying to get Leela and Lars back together.

The problem is that while BBS set the stage for them to start a relationship, BWaBB and BG then ignored it all! In BwaBB, Fry went out with Colleen, Leela actually turned him down when he asked her out, and there was no development in BG at all. So when it does pick up again with the relationship in ItWGY, it just feels tacked on.

Maybe someone needs to reedit the final scene of BBS so that there's no 'tear in the universe' plothole if you go straight from BBS to ItWGY.... wink
Future Shock

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« Reply #104 on: 03-29-2009 14:28 »

Yeah, Beast with a billion backs was  COMPLETE GETAWAY from the ending of Benders Big Score. And Benders Game was coming more away, so Into the Wild Green Yonder feels un-reasoned. Beast with a billion backs should have been made first, then bbs and itwgy. And Benders Game should have been cut altogether.
Gorky

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« Reply #105 on: 03-29-2009 15:26 »

I agree that Leela's attitude towards Fry in ItWGY would've made more sense if that movie had immediately followed BBS; but, as has been stated elsewhere, in the series, developments in the ship rarely carried over from one episode to another. I think I've used this example before, but consider "Time Keeps on Slipping"--one of the shippiest episodes ever, right? And yet it's followed by "I Dated a Robot", where Fry actually falls in love with, y'know, a robot. "The Sting" is followed by two Bender-centric episodes that do absolutely nothing for the Fry/Leela relationship; "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles", an episode where the ship is subtle but definitely there, is followed by "The Why of Fry", where Leela completely ignores Fry for the first two-and-a-half acts.

What I'm saying, I guess, is that I understand the complaints about the ship being tacked-on in ItWGY. But I think a lot of people were expecting the kind of continuity that Futurama has never really been known for--continuity in the ship--and since the movies clearly didn't deliver that, people are annoyed. It doesn't seem completely fair to me.
speedracer
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« Reply #106 on: 03-29-2009 15:46 »

What I'm saying, I guess, is that I understand the complaints about the ship being tacked-on in ItWGY. But I think a lot of people were expecting the kind of continuity that Futurama has never really been known for--continuity in the ship--and since the movies clearly didn't deliver that, people are annoyed. It doesn't seem completely fair to me.

This statement should be amended slightly, imo.  There is a sense of continuity in the 'ship, but it's not a sequential, episode-to-episode deal; it's a large-scale development that takes place over the course of the entire series.
Future Shock

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #107 on: 03-29-2009 15:55 »

It's like kids growing, you don't notice, but you see somethings changed.
Gorky

Space Pope
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« Reply #108 on: 03-29-2009 17:48 »

This statement should be amended slightly, imo.  There is a sense of continuity in the 'ship, but it's not a sequential, episode-to-episode deal; it's a large-scale development that takes place over the course of the entire series.

I can live with that amendment. At the very least, the shippy stories themselves matured; the writers became more graceful. "Parasites Lost" is great, but Leela comes away looking like a jerk; "Time Keeps on Slipping" allows insight into both Fry and Leela's feelings (and Leela is much more sympathetic); and "The Sting" is just brilliant beyond words. I agree that there's a level of continuity, but the relationship itself still screams of "one step forward, two steps back." Which is why I stand by my belief that ItWGY's ending isn't abrupt--it's just such a satisfying ending that people were taken aback; it doesn't seem true to form, even though, when you think about it, it's such an organic moment between Fry and Leela.

I'm not sure if I'm making any sense, but I certainly hope I am.
Curious Gorge

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« Reply #109 on: 03-29-2009 18:43 »

Which is why I stand by my belief that ItWGY's ending isn't abrupt--it's just such a satisfying ending that people were taken aback; it doesn't seem true to form, even though, when you think about it, it's such an organic moment between Fry and Leela.

I agree with that, given how long Futurama was "dead" for we'd all grown to accept the Devil's Hands as the last we'd see of Futurama. Whilst the ending was touching it was still very ambiguous and it did leave many with a sense that there was unfinished business that we'd never see resolved properly. The final scene of ITWGY finally provided the F/L story with the tangible closure that so many wanted yet never expected to see.

It's also fair to say that the 'ship' in ITWGY is of a different flavour to usual hence why it didn't seem to sit entirely right with some. It was more to do with Leela realising what she needed to about Fry rather than him trying to win her over during the course of the story - I think most people expected the latter.

I'm glad they didn't go with the latter though as we've seen it all before, it was much more interesting and poignant to do it the way they did. Especially as just before the final scene Leela, who as we all know is the sort who likes to be in charge of her own destiny, essentially put everything in Fry's hands. She spent all movie risking her future and safety standing up for what she believed in yet when the crunch came she entrusted everything in Fry - despite him appearing to be the enemy and his complete reluctance to explain anything to her. A big development for certain and, as it turned out, the decisive one.

It was all very well done and played an important part in making ITWGY so enjoyable and satisfying.
mctc

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« Reply #110 on: 04-01-2009 01:52 »

I gotta say the last one was the best.
They really did a good job of ending it.
Future Shock

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« Reply #111 on: 04-02-2009 15:18 »

If BWABB AND BG hadn't existed it would be very noice.
x.Bianca.x

Urban Legend
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« Reply #112 on: 04-03-2009 12:20 »

...no it wouldn't.
Future Shock

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #113 on: 04-03-2009 14:07 »

Look at moi, look at moiii... I've got one word to say to you...

Yes it would.
Jezzem

Urban Legend
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« Reply #114 on: 04-03-2009 14:27 »

Future Shock, did you just quote Kath & Kim?!  no no
Future Shock

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #115 on: 04-03-2009 14:29 »

What's it to you?
Jezzem

Urban Legend
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« Reply #116 on: 04-03-2009 14:36 »

no no just... no no
Future Shock

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #117 on: 04-03-2009 15:07 »

Oh yes, it's noice, it's different, and it's unusual. What can you do about that? Ha ha ha ha...
Jezzem

Urban Legend
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« Reply #118 on: 04-03-2009 15:08 »

I don't know... something to do with metronomes
Future Shock

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #119 on: 04-03-2009 15:09 »

Dont threaten me with those beastly clickers
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