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PEE Poll: How would you rate ITWGY (1 = worst; 10 = best)?
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ShepherdofShark

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« Reply #480 on: 03-02-2009 20:41 »

Will people ever accept that the "other" thing might just be a pointless reference to Star Wars?
soylentOrange

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« Reply #481 on: 03-02-2009 21:08 »

Will people ever accept that the "other" thing might just be a pointless reference to Star Wars?

I reject your reality and substitute my own.
ShepherdofShark

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« Reply #482 on: 03-02-2009 21:34 »

Make sure it's a good one.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #483 on: 03-02-2009 21:49 »

Does anyone else think that mini evolution film would make a great animated avatar?...
speedracer
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« Reply #484 on: 03-02-2009 21:50 »

Will people ever accept that the "other" thing might just be a hopelessly vague remark that can be retroactively re-interpreted by the writers whenever, however they like?

FYP
Gorky

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« Reply #485 on: 03-02-2009 23:14 »

As far as "the other" goes, I choose to believe that it was initially meant by the writers to carry some significance--making it some throw-away Star Wars reference from the start just seems like sloppy (and frustrating) writing. However, I agree with speedracer that, by this point, we've been given ample proof that Leela is "the other"...because, well, she just is. I don't think it needs to be explicitly stated; Leela's proven herself to be, at the very least, an important part of Fry's life (and, in this movie, the character whose trust allows him to fulfill his crazy tin-foil mission).
Jezzem

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« Reply #486 on: 03-03-2009 11:29 »

Crazy tin foil mission, I like that... Also, I agree with what you said...
Binder

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« Reply #487 on: 03-03-2009 20:16 »

I agree with the last two posts. Leela has always acted as "the other" to Fry. Leela was one of the major influences on why Fry ended up where he did. Nibbler sent him to the future, but Leela was the catalyst for him ending up at PE safely and since then had been Fry's inspiration for keeping up his delivery work and misadventuring. Imagine if Leela didn't work at PE, Fry would probably watch hypnotoad all day in his lightspeed briefs.

Second on liking "crazy tin foil mission".
Kifz

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« Reply #488 on: 03-03-2009 21:14 »

Maybe its just me, but I saw the whole "building the largest mini-golf course in the universe" pointless and boring. Otherwise I liked the movie. (Just why do they have to be so short? 1:22 hrs is over all too soon. I'd watch for another hour, easily. Yea, yea, I know they're chopped into four 22 min. eps each, but wouldn't six be better?) wink
speedracer
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« Reply #489 on: 03-03-2009 21:42 »

Maybe its just me, but I saw the whole "building the largest mini-golf course in the universe" pointless and boring.

Come on, that's the biggest instance of Futurama-esque satire in the whole movie.  Would you prefer that they build the universe's largest oil refinery or the universe's largest shopping mall instead?
HipNoJoe
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« Reply #490 on: 03-04-2009 03:19 »

The more I watch it the less stressed I am about it being the last installment (please don't let that be true) and the more I enjoy it.  I do think there was an over-reliance on recycled jokes and not much to draw in a new audience, but as a fan of the show as a whole, I appreciated it.  Here's hoping there's more to come.
Binder

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« Reply #491 on: 03-04-2009 03:36 »

I thought the universe's largest mini-golf course invoked the Wikkit Gate from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy novel "Life, the Universe and Everything". Basically the Wikkit Gate is a universal symbol of the basic ideals of civilization, and resembles the Earth game of Cricket.
Gorky

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« Reply #492 on: 03-04-2009 04:50 »
« Last Edit on: 03-04-2009 04:55 »

The more I watch it the less stressed I am about it being the last installment (please don't let that be true) and the more I enjoy it.  I do think there was an over-reliance on recycled jokes and not much to draw in a new audience, but as a fan of the show as a whole, I appreciated it.  Here's hoping there's more to come.

The only joke that struck me as stupid in its repetition was the Fry-getting-conked-over-the-head-with-a-bottle schtick. There was also some really obvious repeated exposition (which was pointed out in a lot of the reviews I read, but I didn't much notice it my first time through the movie), such as Fry's off-screen "That's the Violet Dwarf star Leela's trying to save" when the Madfellows are talking about the sci-fi egg, or Hutch's "Welcome back to the Legion of Madfellows" after Head-Conk Number Two. Stuff like "cell phone-telephone", though, was brilliant every time it was mentioned. As were the femutations of words by Frida. Just my opinion, of course; I agree that (in all of the movies, to be honest) there were some cruddy jokes that refused to die (and a lot of them were just retreads of stuff that was already done in the series).

And this might sound weird, but I actually appreciate that this movie clearly wasn't pandering to your average consumer--it really was a movie meant for the die-hard (or at least more-than-casual) Futurama fans. I think "The Beast With a Billion Backs" (and possibly "Bender's Game") was a bit more mainstream--I could see a new viewer watching it and becoming hooked on phonics the show. ItWGY relied on a lot of previously-established character traits (Leela's into the environment, Fry's a two-time savior of the Earth, Bender has questionable morals, the Wongs own Mars)--it had a plot that only Futurama could've pulled off. TBWaBB and BG, however, are both movies that are broad enough in scope--and less focused on the characters themselves--that they could've been done by any other show using any other characters. Both BBS and ItWGY, to me, are distinctly Futurama.
x.Bianca.x

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« Reply #493 on: 03-04-2009 09:13 »

Ok, here is my short review of ITWGY:

So, I did definetely like the story of it, that was all good. The music was good but I think it could have been more 'epic' if you get me. The main menu was expected but the special features page annoyed me, it took a while to load a topic, as far as menus go.

Story: 5/5
Visual: 5/5
Sound: 4/5
Menu: 3/5
Jezzem

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« Reply #494 on: 03-04-2009 10:38 »

The music could've been "more" epic? I thought it went perfectly with the epicness of the movie... Or whatever the hell I'm trying to say... Also, stop changing your avatar, I liked it the way it was when it was bender with the tin foil hat on!
x.Bianca.x

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« Reply #495 on: 03-04-2009 10:45 »

Also, stop changing your avatar, I liked it the way it was when it was bender with the tin foil hat on!
roll eyes Hmm, what?
Kifz

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« Reply #496 on: 03-05-2009 03:03 »

Binder, thanks for the info, may many benefit from it. As for me, I've read all five books in the "Hitchhiker's" trilogy. Got the DVD too, which (sadly) turned out to be largely a waste of $. The cheesy series from the 70's (80's?  confused) still comes out on top when it comes to making a movie/series based on the book(s).
Binder

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« Reply #497 on: 03-05-2009 15:48 »

Kifz, your referring to the movie DVD right? Yeah, while its a love it or hate it film (I loved it) I totally agree that the tv series was the best live action version. Speaking of HGTTG, the scenes with the Legion of Madfellows reminded me of HGTTG dialog. Especially the "if the dark one can't read his mind then he can't read the dark ones mind and the dark one can't..." scene.
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #498 on: 03-05-2009 18:47 »

Too bad there wasn't an alternate ending on the DVD.   
Binder

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« Reply #499 on: 03-05-2009 19:44 »

Not to be mister HGTTG, but the final book...


SPOILER AHEAD


...ended very much like ITWGY ended.
Gorky

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« Reply #500 on: 03-05-2009 21:31 »
« Last Edit on: 03-05-2009 21:34 »

Okay, not to derail this thread too much, but Nix just posted this article in this thread, and there's a pretty interesting comment from DXC:

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Not to worry, Cohen assures that he is not finished with that tale quite yet. When asked how much of it was left—after the Nibblonian saga was finished and the "Lars" adventure in the first DVD movie—he responded that there is "one sentence," uttered in the series that was left unaddressed. But it's up to superfans to figure out which sentence, not to mention which episode, he is referring to.

Am I just a pathetic shipper, or is anyone else thinking "the other" could be what DXC's talking about?

On topic: Here are a few bits from the movie that I quite enjoyed...

-Frida's late-night meeting with Fry. "Stop making your point so ineffectively!" and "I'll femmunicate your man-formation" is just funny stuff. And the call-back to "sweet goofbag" was nice, too.

-The scene where Bender's messing around with the "cell phone-telephone" while Fry, Leo, and Amy are fighting. I love the Tetris talk, and Fry's mustache; Leo being a total jerk about Amy's weight--and Fry's retort, "Amy's butt is actually pretty hot"--was funny in a terrible way. I love his dismissive "She's just hungry" at the end of the scene--I missed it the first time watching, but last time I caught it and thought it was brilliantly snarky.

-The scene where Frida is found murdered--Leela is hilarious. "It just doesn't seem like Fry to be so evil, or to hold down a job" and "There's a crazed muderer on the loose. Possibly in the shadows! Or hanging from the ceiling!" And I loved Katey Sagal's reading of "cell phone-telephone", for some reason.

-The ever-so-confusing communique--again, Leela is so funny. You know, actually, I think every scene Leela was in--whether it was with the feministas or not--was great. She's probably my favorite character, and I thought the writers really nailed her storyline in this movie. So, yeah. End fangirl-ish raving.

(For those of you who possibly hang around at Television Without Pity, these "astute" observations were taken from a post I made over in their Futurama thread. I'm into recycling, I am.)
dr.bender nye

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« Reply #501 on: 03-05-2009 21:55 »

I have a question for those that have it on Blu-Ray, on infosphere it says "Also, at least in Blu-Ray, it includes a very obscure DVD extra." what is it exactly?
I think its that toilet paper animation (Understand more by watching "The Making of ...It") that I found under the last menu option.
Frisco17

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« Reply #502 on: 03-05-2009 23:54 »

Okay, not to derail this thread too much, but Nix just posted this article in this thread, and there's a pretty interesting comment from DXC:

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Not to worry, Cohen assures that he is not finished with that tale quite yet. When asked how much of it was left—after the Nibblonian saga was finished and the "Lars" adventure in the first DVD movie—he responded that there is "one sentence," uttered in the series that was left unaddressed. But it's up to superfans to figure out which sentence, not to mention which episode, he is referring to.

Am I just a pathetic shipper, or is anyone else thinking "the other" could be what DXC's talking about?

I'd say there's a rediculously good change that's what he's refering to. At least that's what I thought of the second I saw it.
KoolMoeDee

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« Reply #503 on: 03-06-2009 00:40 »

I have a question for those that have it on Blu-Ray, on infosphere it says "Also, at least in Blu-Ray, it includes a very obscure DVD extra." what is it exactly?
I think its that toilet paper animation (Understand more by watching "The Making of ...It") that I found under the last menu option.
I found that, and I have the DVD. I think that's supposed to be the easter egg.
Jezzem

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« Reply #504 on: 03-06-2009 07:32 »

I have a question for those that have it on Blu-Ray, on infosphere it says "Also, at least in Blu-Ray, it includes a very obscure DVD extra." what is it exactly?
I think its that toilet paper animation (Understand more by watching "The Making of ...It") that I found under the last menu option.
The obscure extra thingy on the bluray is the clip of Billy West talking about when the power went out at the recording studio in Zapp Brannigan's voice. (I have it on dvd and bluray, DVD and dvd again but region 1 instead of 4... Just gettin' that out there...)
Archonix

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« Reply #505 on: 03-06-2009 18:22 »

So there's not much more to add to this thread except to say that ITWGY was by far the best of these movies. I've related similar sentiments on the shipping thread, but I get a very strong feeling that this was the movie they originally planned to make, and that the other three were something they cobbled together after they ended up with a four movie deal from FOX.

It feels like it. If you watch this film right after Devils Hands you can see a continuity that was missing in the other three films.

Funy, well-paced, ell-written... frankly all I have to ask is, where the hell were these guys in the other movies? But never mind.

Also, thanks to Ralph for sending me these DVD's. I really don't deserve free stuff. big grin
soylentOrange

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« Reply #506 on: 03-06-2009 18:30 »

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It feels like it. If you watch this film right after Devils Hands you can see a continuity that was missing in the other three films.
  Exactly what I thought.  ITWGY really felt like it was a continuation of the romance that we all thought started during The Devil's Hands. 
Ralph Snart

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« Reply #507 on: 03-06-2009 18:41 »


Also, thanks to Ralph for sending me these DVD's. I really don't deserve free stuff. big grin

Oh, hush!  I believe in committing random acts of kindness.  (Remember the e-mail I sent you over a year ago about me meeting up with the late Wahoo McDaniel at a "tough-man" contest in 1998?  I remembered him going the extra mile to "put me over" Christmas night in 1980 at The Omni in Atlanta.  That match made my career take off and he didn't have to do the things for me that he did.  That's one reason why I try to do such randon, kind acts.)

Besides, you not only treat us to readable fan-fics and fan art, you bankroll and run your Simpsons website, so it's my small way of saying "Thanks" for all of your efforts.

I'm just glad that you enjoyed the DVD.
Frisco17

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« Reply #508 on: 03-06-2009 20:03 »

I've related similar sentiments on the shipping thread, but I get a very strong feeling that this was the movie they originally planned to make, and that the other three were something they cobbled together after they ended up with a four movie deal from FOX.

It feels like it. If you watch this film right after Devils Hands you can see a continuity that was missing in the other three films.

I never thought of that before but it makes alot of sense actually.
FYP

New Tester
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« Reply #509 on: 03-06-2009 22:00 »

Will people ever accept that the "other" thing might just be a hopelessly vague remark that can be retroactively re-interpreted by the writers whenever, however they like?


FYP

What?
speedracer
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« Reply #510 on: 03-07-2009 00:32 »

Random question:

Leela identifies the location of the violet dwarf as 167.84, -58.03, "Mark 948".  In the commentary DXC mentions that the first two numbers possess astronomical significance, later revealed by a stalwart PEELer to be the coordinates of an actual star.  DXC says that the "Mark 948" bit is supposed to be of more general significance?  Does anybody know what it means?  My first guess is that it refers to Mark 9:48 in the Bible, and I can't think of what else it might be.
Frisco17

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« Reply #511 on: 03-07-2009 00:43 »

"'their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched" Mark 9:48

Possibly a reference to the leech being the dark one?
speedracer
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« Reply #512 on: 03-07-2009 11:44 »
« Last Edit on: 03-07-2009 11:51 »

The first time I watched ITWGY I wondered if the galactic coordinates that Leela listed for the Violet Dwarf had any significance, but figured that they probably didn't.  But then I listened to the video commentary and David X. Cohen proved once again that absolutely everything in this show is a nerdy reference.

So what is at galactic latitude -58.03, longitude 167.84?  Turns out its the star Mira (within a few arcseconds).  That's kind of a neat choice for them to make.  The primary star is losing its atmosphere to space, and the secondary, sun-like star is gathering it into a disc that might one day form planets. 

You have to love a show where the producer adresses all of the "astrophysics grad students in the audience."

Just for the sake of completeness, here's a link referencing the galactic (Sun-centric) coordinates of Mira.  (The Wikipedia article lists only equatorial coordinates, which are Earth-centric.)
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #513 on: 03-07-2009 23:48 »

The way it ended, I almost have a little tiny *wish* that Fry had died.    Really hope Futurama comes back for a sixth season, doesn't matter what channel shows it.  If it doesn't, I know I said this before, at least there's the comics. 
SonicPanther

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« Reply #514 on: 03-08-2009 00:41 »

The way it ended, I almost have a little tiny *wish* that Fry had died. 

...What?!
leiapadme77

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« Reply #515 on: 03-08-2009 01:23 »

Random question:

Leela identifies the location of the violet dwarf as 167.84, -58.03, "Mark 948".  In the commentary DXC mentions that the first two numbers possess astronomical significance, later revealed by a stalwart PEELer to be the coordinates of an actual star.  DXC says that the "Mark 948" bit is supposed to be of more general significance?  Does anybody know what it means?  My first guess is that it refers to Mark 9:48 in the Bible, and I can't think of what else it might be.

DAVID X. COHEN IS A GENIUS!
Yes, I believe it was a huge hint that the leech was the dark one. Perhaps one or two Futurama fans knew the verse and made the connection right away. The verse Mark 9:48 is actually just referring to another verse in the Bible, Isaiah 66:24  talking about the end of the world: “And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind”
There are many ways to interpret this, but why would the writers use it?
Perhaps because if the Leech did not die, The Dark Ones would take over the universe. Also, the Bible always uses serpents, snakes and worms to represent Satan/Evil. Looking back, I should have guessed right away that the Leech was The Dark One, being a “worm” and all…..A dead give away in my opinion!


Frisco17

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« Reply #516 on: 03-08-2009 02:29 »

An extremely well hidden dead give away.

DAVID X. COHEN IS A GENIUS!

No argument here.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #517 on: 03-08-2009 02:55 »
« Last Edit on: 05-05-2009 23:11 »

Hi! I'm new to this board and I figured a review of ITWGY would be the best way to start off.

ITWGY is fantastic. It is by far the best of the movies and even one of the best episodes of the series. It is practically a love letter to all the fans of the series who were (are?) sad to see it go.

Continuity is mostly back and the characters benefit from it. After the first three films I was starting to worry that the writers had lost their touch (especially after BWABB where it seemed like all the characters had been replaced by Skrull copies) and that the show was better off dead. ITWGY proved to me that those worries were unfounded.

The characters are back to a level of development that I thought was abandoned after the series. I'm glad that ITWGY went back to this level of characterization rather than the diluted one used for the first three.

The story is more complete than that of the 2nd and 3rd movies. While the Mars Vegas sequence didn't have much to do with the rest of the story it was very well written and very funny. It did still have time to throw in a few things for setup of the Purple Dwarf Star segment (Feministas, Muck Worm, Fry's Mind Reading Abilities, and Hutch)so it made good use as a side episode.

The Purple Dwarf Star segment is the meat of the movie and what a tender, juicy meat it is. Leo Wong as the villain was a surprising turn but it was very well done and gave an underused character new life. Zapp and Kif are back in full form and it's the funniest they've been in years. I really enjoyed the way they handled the Waterfall family in this one. They had become a joke in the series (albeit a funny one) and it was nice to see them as likeable and even heroic characters (I never saw the reveal at the end coming). The Legion of Mad Fellows is a great addition to the already massive amount of great characters in Futurama and I hope this isn't the last we have seen of them. The new life planet and the Purple dwarf star are some of the prettiest sites I've seen and the Mini-Golf Course is really fun and wacky (I wish it existed in real life (minus the environmental repercussions)).

I loved that all the characters had equal turns in the movie (as I previously stated). Of course I'd be remiss if I didn't mention Fry and Leela. As the show got into the 4th season I could hear the actors getting more comfortable in their roles. The shippy episodes easily contain the best work from Billy West and Katey Sagal. This movie follows those episodes with the best versions of Fry and Leela in the series. Their friendship really shows and I forgot the less than great performances from the first three movies when I heard and saw them here. Even if they weren't in love I know these characters would be best friends and I'm glad to have the proper versions of them back.

I could keep typing about all the things ITWGY got right but chances are that would be longer than a plot synopses of the movie. Let me finish by saying that this is easily one of Futurama's finest hours and if the series returns and is this good then hopefully it won't be on FOX (good shows never seem to survive that network).

5/5, A+, 100%, 4****, I love this movie!
Javier Lopez

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« Reply #518 on: 03-09-2009 05:45 »

Will people ever accept that the "other" thing might just be a pointless reference to Star Wars?

Will the writers ever to accept that people dont bite fake baits anymore and its not nice to make up things when there is nothing really behind?

Its a problem that is becoming wider at an alarming rate with today's shows.
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #519 on: 03-09-2009 17:52 »
« Last Edit on: 03-09-2009 17:55 »

Here's how I pictured Into The Wild Green Yonder before it came out.

As much as I liked the story, here's what I expected:

Starting off as a typical delivery for the PE Crew, and then they come back only to be in the middle of a war between the Nibbolians and the Brainspawn.  Then the 9 man says a prophecy has been true about the war.  The PE Crew are caught in the middle and everybody has to help fight the Brainspawn.  They even join the DOOP soilders as well.   Then the 9 Man says that Fry is the hope to stop the Brainspawn and the war, and reveals that Leela is 'the other'.  So, both Fry and Leela have to save the world.   Then Fry does something Heruclean to save the world, and  the Brainspawn are defeated.  The PE Crew heads back to earth only to have their ship crash and everyone survives but Fry.  The Brainspawn defected their ship that caused it to crash.  Bender holds a funeral for him and the 9 man says the prophecy has been fulfilled and goes home.  Then later as Leela grieves Fry comes back as an angel and takes Leela into heaven with him to show around and then takes her back with Bender following in tow. 

That's what I thought was going to happen in the movie.

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