Bender's Game reviews (Spoilers ahoy!)

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Biggest indication time travel is not possible: Nobody in the entire history of the rest of existence has come to visit us.

It could be that we can only travel forwards, or that when you time travel you create a parrallel universe with you in the future in it at the event of time travel.

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I'm not sure why, but I'm finding the wait pretty easy for this movie. The last one was hell to wait for, but now I'm more casual about it. I'll still be picking it up on release day though...

Agreed...the wait for ITWGY will be a nightmare though.

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Probably because BWABB didn't have an annoying cliffhanger like BBS did. That's pretty much why I said from the beginning that it was a good thing it didn't have one.

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Is there a cliffhanger at the end of Bender's Game?

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Biggest indication time travel is not possible: Nobody in the entire history of the rest of existence has come to visit us.

That or they are purposely avoiding something terrible that's about to happen. uh oh.

Travellers could have visited other eras throughout history, and gotten away with it (if it weren't for those meddling kids). The Victorians would have not been astonished to hear a dinner guest claim of being froma  time when nuclear weapons and devastating wars had wiped most life from the surface of the Earth. They would have likely been glad to take a solemn oath of secrecy on the topic as well. The Romans, Greeks, and other great civilisations may have had contact with such beings.

Of course, it is equally likely that time travellers would be very secretive about their little jaunts. It could be illegal in the future, and history could be used to convict them. Therefore they could walk among us right now, in disguise or in plain sight, and we would never know.

Time travel into the past and the future, at will is definitely theoretically possible. We'll probably need to advance to the state where we can manipulate black holes and wormholes in space at will before we can even attempt it, much less control it.

Alternatively, we've not had any visits because they don't exist yet but will. Since the future hasn't happened yet, nobody has come back from that period to tell us about it yet. Once the future has happened, then our present (having become the past) will shift subtly to accomodate any changes, or stable time loops will be formed, necessitating shifts which are not immediately obvious.

That said, travelling into the future should be relatively easy (no pun intended). We could send people into orbit and have them gradually sped up to near the speed of light. As their orbits decay and they come back to earth, they will have advanced into the future by an unknown amount. Of course, we might be too long dead to take accurate measurements and determine the necessary steps to produce a controllable future-trip mechanism.

Of course, one-way travel into the past is also possible, but much trickier. It requires you to place a metallic object in a microwave and begin to cook it, whilst on a spacecraft in close orbit to a star that is undergoing the initial stage of supernova. After that, things get weird.

Long story short: time travel is theoretically possible. But difficult. And not at all well understood. So we'll never know until somebody manages it. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, etc.

Personally, I think that given world enough and time, somebody will come up with it eventually.

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WOW!  That spoiler really rocks!

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I don't want to see the trailer to ITWGY until I get Bender's Game.  I'm watching the trailer before I watch the movie. 

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time travel stuff

I have heard that at the quantum level, a form of time travel is or could be possible; it involves the laboratory-assisted creation of tiny infinitesimal wormholes, and if you could get some object through one, that would technically be 'time travel'.
Also, we could not know about the existence of time travelers simply because time and history may have worked around them in such a way as to make them undetectable, or the effects they wrought indiscernable.

Not time travel, but another thing I always found fascinating is how if someone on some far-off planet was observing Earth, they would actually be seeing it as it was years earlier, like viewing it back in time.

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There is no past to go to. Nor a future for that matter. Not physically.

Energy can not be created or destroyed. This is a principle that all of our science is based on. Things like the creation and end of the universe give mind numbingly large headaches with this matter. But ultimately whatever physics decides is the truth, not being able to create or destroy energy is fundamental to our universes existance, and if it really is a rational place governed by laws, this better hold true.

The only reason the present exists, and only reason we know of the past, is that energy unchanged will remain in its current state until something comes along and acts on it. A rock 10000 years ago left uninfluenced by any external force will still be a rock today, because the energy of that rock was never changed. Our memories are the result of mental processes of converting energy into certain patterns and those patterns will remain until changed.

If you could simultaneously reverse every single transfer of energy you could "go to the past", but you wouldn't be, you would be bringing that patten that was to the present. If you could fast forward every energy transfer, you would see the future, but it would not BE the future, it would be the energy pattern that will result from all the transfers currently going on now.

In the case of the past, for you to be there you would have to shield your energy from the process, but the act of not having your energy there to work back through the many changes would in itself alter the result... any attempt to isolate the area of reverting would run into the problem of scope. How far out you have to go before you can consider energy interactions inconsequential for what you are trying to observe. Now you have the problem of literally undoing every ones life between now and then.

If you could make a "freeze frame", a snapshot to return the universe to afterward, you need the energy from somewhere. Same as the energy you would need to duplicate yourself in order to make the transformation accurate. Ultimately you might find you have to physically undo EVERY interaction in the universe back to when you wanted to go. But you would then have no energy to protect yourself nor run the process anyway.

Any ultimately, regardless of what you did in this past setting before reverting it, you would still remember the original version because that is an energy pattern built into YOUR head, which you protected in this whole endeavor. You also get the problem of the consequences of moving the energy from wherever to make the placeholder you, and what happens to that placeholder you afterward.

Future is possible in the sense of preserving yourself while the universe gets on with it. Slowing your reaction to the passage of time down to the point where you will be able to remain intact for centuries, then syncing yourself up to the universe again is well withing the law physics wise. Human knowledge / tolerance wise? We might get there. But its no different from the cryogenic freezing idea. We cant speed time up, we can just wait around ourselves.

"Time Travel" implies time is something more than our way of keeping track of change. Whats here is the leftover of what was, and the starting point for what will be. But in the end its all the same materials.

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I liked Bender's game. Any movie that's got

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Leela on Amy action

is an awesome movie in my book 

I'm not kidding about that, btw...

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I liked Bender's game. Any movie that's got

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Leela on Amy action

is an awesome movie in my book 

GOOD GOD!

[Reply #92 on:]

another review. 

Also:

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Biggest indication time travel is not possible: Nobody in the entire history of the rest of existence has come to visit us.

That or they are purposely avoiding something terrible that's about to happen. uh oh.

You incorrectly assume that it's possible to physically harness the ability to travel time and also that if such were true that after such a discover, the knowledge would become exponentially widespread.

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another review. 

Also:

Looks like Nibbler will return before ITWGY after all...though I still expect him to play a big part in the 4th film.

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I have two throw my two cents in here.  We can bandy the whole time travel dilemma 'til the cows come home , but, the fact is that a moment in time exists only for that moment and is gone.  Even Einstieinian time travel that is to say travel faster than light would allow only a glimpse of the very recent past, not physical travel to a physical realm.

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http://www.theshiznit.co.uk/review/futurama-benders-game.php
   
           Here's another review, I dont know if any one has posted it here or not

     I have been emailing the guy who did the review of Bender's Game at dvd talk and he's been giving me some more info about it and ITWGY.  I'll post the new info when he sends me a new email
     

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Hey there,

Thanks for reading!  I'll have to watch the trailer again to make a fair assesment of it, which I can provide in the next day or two.  I can say that it didn't seem like a "grand and final epic", but it's hard to tell at this point.  The trailer for "Bender's Game" was fairly misleading itself, since it advertised the entire story as a fantasy-based adventure

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(instead of 30-40 minutes inside Bender's imagination)

.  Either way, I'll let you know soon enough.

Randy
             

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I'm actually quite surprised that the ITWGY trailer hasn't surfaced on youtube as of yet. I expect it to appear during the next week or so.

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With les than 3 weeks to go before the release of Bender's Game, I have yet to read people posting about getting a copy via the net.  BWABBs was different - people were talking about watching the entire thing at least a month prior to its release.

I admit to not being knowledgable about "bit torrents" and other ways to watch movies - I only know how to use YouTube and LiveLeak.

So I'm wondering if FOX has found a way to really clamp down on this type of activity?  If so, I give them a big "Thumbs Up".I'm kinda strange in that way - I want to be able to discuss the movie at the same time with others - in other words, everybody get their copies at the same time.

That said, the reviews taht I've read so far makes it seem to be superior in different ways that either of the previous DVD's.  I'm just hoping Amazon will have my copy delivered on Monday, Nov. 3 because Nov. 4 is election day in the USA and the mail doesn't run that day.

And yes, I'd like to see at least another run of the show -2-3 years would be nice.

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I'm glad this hasn't leaked yet. I would love for it not to leak until the day it's released in the shops...

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I seem to remember BBS was seen by many before the release date, myself included.

Didn't stop me buying the DVD though...I was just impatient to see it.

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I'm glad this hasn't leaked yet. I would love for it not to leak until the day it's released in the shops...

Epic fail on the behalf of the internet. But it does look like an early leak is less and less likely. Ah well 18 days to release... got more then enough to do between now and then.

Actually it comes out the day after my EE midterm, hooray for Futurama pick me up!

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Weirdly I'm actually more eager to see the ITWGY trailer than Bender's Game. That's not to say I'm not looking forward to seeing BG but it's probably more to do with the fact that ITWGY is the film I've been anticipating the most since the day the four films were announced.

Still, I have high hopes for Bender's Game and I anticipate that I'll enjoy it more than BWABB (which was only rescued from mediocrity by the humour) but it'll have a task on to upstage BBS.

[Reply #103 on:]

haha ya, it's strange because I'm also more excited to see the trailer for the 4th movie as well...but it doesn't mean i'm not looking forward to Benders Game. =)

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I know what the collar on Leela is about....

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According to the review on     http://www.comicmix.com/news/2008/10/16/review-futurama-benders-game/      Leela is given the collar for anger issues

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Kinda like Eric Cartman and the "V" chip eh?

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pretty much

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I know what the collar on Leela is about....

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According to the review on     http://www.comicmix.com/news/2008/10/16/review-futurama-benders-game/      Leela is given the collar for anger issues

Ralph would have a friggin' field day with this!

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It's anger issues, that's what it is.  It looks from the previews that Leela's collar shocks others and not her.   Anyway, does anyone know is any character gets kidnapped on Bender's Game yet? 

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It's anger issues, that's what it is.  It looks from the previews that Leela's collar shocks others and not her.   Anyway, does anyone know is any character gets kidnapped on Bender's Game yet? 

Wait till November 3rd, I'll let you know then.

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Not long now

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I'm sick of waiting. I really want to see it. Two weeks, come on.

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Im too old for this shit

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Im too old for this shit

Danny Glover.  Lethal Weapon.

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I got another update from Randy who did the review at dvdtalk.com                                   

Here you go!

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I remembered to watch the trailer for "Into the Wild Green Yonder" last night.  Unfortunately, it doesn't follow one specific plotline from start to finish, so there's not much to share.  It *is* revealed, of course, that Fry dies...but look how many times Hermes died in "Bender's Big Score", so we'll just have to wait and see.  Bender also says at the end of the trailer, "And if you think *that's* shocking, wait until...", but he's cut off by the narrator before he gets a chance to finish.  So it looks like there might be some big surprises in store, seeing as how this might be the last "Futurama" adventure.

Overall, though, "Wild Green Yonder" seems to follow a theme of "big battle between us and them"...but "they" aren't identified, so the details aren't clear.  Along the way, it looks like some of the ladies (Leela, Amy, and Hermes' wife) form their own group...but beyond that, it doesn't explain very much.  I'm sure this will make sense when the DVD is released in the near future.

As for my favorite parts of "Bender's Game"...I enjoyed the second act the most, which set up the fantasy-based third act and established more back-story between the Professor and Mom.  My favorite line is in there as well, and refers to a joke made in an elevator shaft.  Lots of good one-liners in this one, though.

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Thanks for that info though if anything it makes me more impatient for the fourth film.

At least it's only a wait of four or so months though which I think I'm right in saying is the shortest gap between any of the films.

But still, four months...though on the brightside at one point it looked as though it'd be six back when it was believed to be coming out in April. Should be grateful really.

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Thanks for the spoiler info!  Sounds very promising.   Maybe the trailer isn't revealing much because it's all supposed to be a surprise.   

Hermes's wife's name is LaBarbra. 

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The mystery surrounding ITWGY is probably helping it's appeal. A fair amount of the premise has been known beforehand with the other three films but with ITWGY only slight snippets have been revealed and even then it only contributes to the mystery.

I wish someone would post the trailer online though...there's less than a week to go before I get my hands on the BG DVD but that doesn't stop me from being impatient.

Also after seeing a couple of sneak peaks from BG over the past day or two my anticipation for that film has risen, if the humour of those clips is representative of the entire film it'll make for very enjoyable watching indeed.

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The Official site has changed, but will be more complete soon.

http://www.ilovebender.com/

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new clips

http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=10615&count=0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7EVV0WOZyY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRIkRoDn6IA&feature=related