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RogerWilco81

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« on: 07-05-2008 21:50 »

If Nibbler is indeed still under the table as alluded to in the BBS commentary, I wonder what he was thinking as the mighty one reappeared not once, but TWICE from the time sphere moments after he pushed himself into the tube to serve his purpose....then sees three versions of the same robot....
soylentOrange

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« Reply #1 on: 07-05-2008 23:10 »

he was probably thinking something along the lines of "woah, there must've been something funky in that pizza I ordered."
futz
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« Reply #2 on: 07-05-2008 23:16 »

As I recall Fry fell into the freezer doodle at about midnight in SP3000. Time sphere Fry and the rest started showing up at about 12:30 AM in BBS. After Fry fell into the tube at midnite there would be no reason for Nibbler to hang around Applied Cryogenics. If Nibbler had seen The Frys and Benders reappear at 12:30 AM then he would have known his attack and protests to Nudar about using the time sphere were pointless. And, probably most significantly, the pizza was intact when time sphere Fry found it. It's hard to imagine Nibbler being able to resist the smell of pizza for a half hour.
Kifz

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« Reply #3 on: 07-06-2008 15:11 »

With the fate of the whole universe hanging in the balance, I think Nibbler could keep his mind off the pizza. Speculation: maybe he also knew that the pizza needed to remain there, so that the past and thus the future (Fry coming back + the Benders sent after him & all that would follow) would not be altered.
futz
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« Reply #4 on: 07-06-2008 18:42 »

The pizza is only relevant to Nibbler's presence after midnight not the fate of the universe. Again Nibbler appears not to have any foreknowledge of the time code on Fry's butt which he would have known if he still was at AC when Fry reappeared. Nibbler in 2008 is only aware of a Level 87 emergency is going to happen (87:1 also being HO scale in model railroading - it the best scale).
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #5 on: 07-06-2008 22:30 »

 
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Originally posted by futz:
... If Nibbler had seen The Frys and Benders reappear at 12:30 AM then he would have known his attack and protests to Nudar about using the time sphere were pointless...

But 2000 Nibbler knew nothing of Nudar. And, since the time sphere is paradox-free, 3007 Nibbler would know nothing of his own meeting with the Frys and Benders.
Xanfor

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« Reply #6 on: 07-07-2008 01:10 »
« Last Edit on: 07-07-2008 01:10 »

 
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Originally posted by i_c_weiner:
 But 2000 Nibbler knew nothing of Nudar. And, since the time sphere is paradox-free, 3007 Nibbler would know nothing of his own meeting with the Frys and Benders.

Exactly. Thus, the new 2000 Nibbler who saw the time-sphere Frys and Benders continued to live to the present day, whilst the 3007 Nibbler who didn't continued to exist, which created a paradox, what doomed and forced 3007 Nibbler to eat himself.
futz
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« Reply #7 on: 07-07-2008 09:24 »

Nope. The time sphere only eliminates the paradox not the memory of it by others. Otherwise the Professor would not have even checked for the paradox-correction of the Time Sphere since neither he or anyone else would have a memory of witnessing a duplicate or it's correction.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #8 on: 07-07-2008 11:13 »

My theory is that the time sphere causes a "bypass" from the points of time travel, both to and from. Thus, when the duplicate comes to the point of "from" (the present) the duplicate is doomed. Likewise, the "from" people have no recollection of the "bypass" events because they had gone through the "business route" (regular time). (Yes, I'm comparing time travel to a highway.) In this way, the 3007 selves would know nothing of the alternate past because they had lived through the "business route" rather than the "bypass" created by the time sphere.

For example, Lars would continue to live on the "bypass" and, upon meeting up with the "business route", would be doomed. To explain the tear in the universe, the massive new bypass created by Bender meeting all the other Benders caused a collapse where the bypass and business routes meet, tearing the fabric of space-time and, thus, the universe. Yivo was just there for the ride.
ALequalsGREAT

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« Reply #9 on: 07-07-2008 12:59 »

Thanks for that analogy, i_c_; I was trying to figure out how to best articulate my interpretation of the time-travel and I think you have done far better than I could have!
Also why I will continue to watch Fryrish and Jurassic and not be pissed  big grin
dr.bender nye

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« Reply #10 on: 07-08-2008 07:12 »

You have to watch the time when Fry and Bender go to the past, around 12:30. Who says that in that half hour, Nibbler was gone by then?
ShepherdofShark

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« Reply #11 on: 07-08-2008 12:37 »

Very true dr.bender. I have heard arguments along the lines of "there were 4 Frys in the lab at one point". But it is quite clear that Fry and Bender go back a short while after the freezing incident.

The "4th" Fry was sent back to the infosphere just a few seconds after midnight. And Nibbler I would suggest, with his work complete, toddled off back to Vergon 6 to await the events in LLLIS.
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