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Xanfor
DOOP Secretary
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I feel the exact opposite. That is, BBS sucked and BWABB was golden. The again, to each their own. It's the internets after all. Let the showdown begin!
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Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by Bendersfan1221: I though BWaBB was much better then BBS. B..b..b..but you have a BBS avatar ...
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frowntown
Crustacean
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Well I've seen it too and I thought that it was a vast improvement on Bender's Big Score...
I thought firstly the animation was vastly better than the first which didn't seem right to me and that the jokes were much funnier in BWaBB....
The problem with BBS was that the plot was over complicated and hard to follow, but with BWaBB the plot was understandable (though Bender' subplot didn't really make much sense)...
Did anyone notice the Pirates of the Caribbean 2 reference near the end? (hope not spoiling anything, i remained vague)
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Diggidydaffodil
Crustacean
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When i first watched BBS i had this horrible sinking feeling, it just wasn't up to the standard that i thought it would be, however i have since then watched it a few times and its really grown on me. BWaBB i liked immediately, i found it to be much funnier and i think that's why, humour gets you straight away whereas plotlines can sometimes take more than one viewing to truly appreciate.
I do agree with frowntown about the Bender subplot though.
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WaxRobotNap
Poppler
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Whats with that superman joke in BWBB.... kinda family guyish dont you think?.. The movie was very good by the way 10 times better then the first.
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ALequalsGREAT
Starship Captain
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I enjoyed both movies, but at this point BBS is still my favorite. The great jokes and self-absorbed characters may have attracted me to Futurama so many years ago, but the complicated plots, sub-plots and multiple storylines have kept me interested far more than those former simple devices ever could. With that in mind BWABB was, for the most part, fun to watch; I felt that it propelled the stories of the characters much less than BBS and therefore was a bit more diversionary. Don't get me wrong, I saw Fry maturing a lot more in BWABB which was encouraging (and perhaps the main point I took with me)- I am much less interested in the Amy/Kif/Zapp fiasco (although Amy and Kif are not pivotal characters to me), and the League of Robots was a generally funny foil for the action with Yivo. One thing I did not care for was the choice of David Cross to play as Yivo. I simply disliked the flippant attitude it gave to that character and I hardly ever found it humorous (this is from a person who has watched his fair share Mr. Show <3 <3 , so I am not simply a hater... ). Let it be noted that I am looking through a shipper's eyes, so my main interest in these films is the advancement of the central figure- Futurama may have taken some side roads in the past but I feel it has never lost sight of the ultimate impact on Fry's life and relationships, and I have high expectations for a catharsis at the end of this four-part 'movie'. I have only watched BWABB 2 times so I am sure I will have more opinion to give later
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WaxRobotNap
Poppler
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In what way was Yivo mating with the humans? Why was that forgotten about later in the episode? What was Yivos goal? was it mating or was it to have people living on him not contacting other universes. Why didn't he want people to contact other universes... that seemed random to me.. I feel like that was only in the story line to stir up trouble. I may be missing deeper meanings I only watched it once so far.
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futuramajunkie
Poppler
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i didnt really like either of the movies that much. i was pretty dissapointed by both, although BBS was a little better. they just weren't clever like the original shows were.
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psm2201
Crustacean
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i like the film, but to be honest i thought it was a bit rubbish, really dissapointed. they could of done alot better...just hoping that the other 2 movies are going as good as benders big score.
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Anarchy_Balsac
Bending Unit
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Originally posted by WaxRobotNap: In what way was Yivo mating with the humans? Possibly non-reproductively using schler own bio contraceptives? Originally posted by WaxRobotNap:Why was that forgotten about later in the episode? It wasn't, the "genticles" show up on "mattress island" Originally posted by WaxRobotNap:What was Yivos goal? To got a cheap thrill, then later to marry universe A/universe gamma Originally posted by WaxRobotNap: Why didn't he want people to contact other universes... Because the electro-matter used in doing so could be used to kill shclim.
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THM
Bending Unit
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I've said it elsewhere, I know, but it bears repeating: I loved it. I spent the entire time either laughing really hard or going 'Man, that's just nasty!' ('Cause they sure did amp up the gross factor on this one, didn't they?) The stories were interesting, the jokes flowed thick and fast, the music seemed better this time (i.e., not like the whole score was lifted from the video game)...there were a couple of sour notes, true; Amy seemed to jump into bed with Zapp (ugh) a little quickly, I'm willing to concede that Kif's return was a little too easy, and I guess the idea that Yivo was committing a universe-wide case of sexual assault doesn't sit very well with a show that doesn't tend to get that dark - and the fact that Leela takes an awfully long time to realise that she's a tad annoyed at Fry for dropping a six-year obsession and shacking up with some lush polyamorist (not that Leela was wowed about the obsession when Fry acted out of nothing else)...but really? Minor points. This was a step forward in terms of quality, in just about every area. If things continue like this, BG will be something to treasure. Roll on November, I say.
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futz
Liquid Emperor
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I liked BwBB much more than BBS on my first viewing. Much funnier and visually pulls the viewer in as well as exploring new places.
My quibbles, and they are minor, would be the almost straight equivalence of physical sexual desire and not-of-this-world religious love. I think most established religions would point in the direction that the opposite is true. And if you equate to sex then you would also have to include desire for wealth, power, etc. It might have helped in character development if Yivo had a broader range of temptations for our universe. But there is only so much you can put on one DVD and Yivo would be the Devil then not merely another universe.
Second, the interface of Yivo as single- entity universe seemed a bit awkward writing-wise when he was dealing with our universe made up of quadrillions of entities with no collective entity.
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futz
Liquid Emperor
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It was a bit surprising that he wanted to bail on the 31st Century after he just got back. But that's how he got to be the 1st contact with Yivo. I just hope each new DVD episode won't have a Fry breakdown/crying scene due to female problems. It's about time some one like Hermes tells him, "You want to get married? Are you crazy? Why buy the whole cow when the store delivers cake by the slice?"
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Frisco17
DOOP Secretary
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Something I forgot to mention earlier was one of my favorite parts of the movie. Near the end when Kif is explaining what Fonfon ru means to Amy and Zapp makes a comment Kif nails him in the stomach. I'm not sure why but that brought me endless amounts of joy.
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Ryan Ro
Crustacean
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Originally posted by Frisco17: Something I forgot to mention earlier was one of my favorite parts of the movie. Near the end when Kif is explaining what Fonfon ru means to Amy and Zapp makes a comment Kif nails him in the stomach. I'm not sure why but that brought me endless amounts of joy. Kif finally growing a (figurative) backbone? Punching Zapp in the gut? I CHEERED.
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futz
Liquid Emperor
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Curious though, Zapp never strikes back which he has every right to do. Just seems to brush it off.
On my 1st watching I started to wear out about an hour into it. Just too much to take in at one viewing. 2nd watching the ending seemed better. Still didn't notice the joke with Adlai until I was browsing stills later on.
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BenderBot3000
Poppler
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Great replies! I loved everyone's opinions, and I have to admit that since I originally posted this, BWABB has really grown on me. Although I love Fry, I am a Bender fan primarily. So while I enjoy the BWABB, I'm still partial to BBS.
So now I'm wondering who thinks these four films will garner enough of a following and attention to get Comedy Central to order up a deal for more episodes after the films?
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jumpymonkey9
Poppler
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I wasn't too thrilled about either movie. They both lacked the snappiness of the past seasons. I almost regret buying BBS, and I'm glad I only rented BwaBB. I don't think I'd watch them if they were on tv, what's the point. I think they need to stick to short episodes that don't rely on a long storyline.
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Frisco17
DOOP Secretary
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One thing I've noticed almost every time somthing is brought back for a second run is that a large number of the original fans don't like it. Futurama, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, I could keep going for hours. It seems to me that people build up this idea in their mind that the originals were absolute perfection so that when they see something new it has no chance against that backdrop. Granted the new movie have some holes in them, but so did most of the original episodes. I thought BBS was absolutly brilliant and BWABB, while rather strange, was good too. I mean there are obviously a few episodes that will likely never be topped, The Sting, Hell Is Other Robots and Devil's Hands for example. The movies are also considerably better than a few of the originals too. Like Obsoletely Fabulous or That's Lobstertainment.
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