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BenderBot3000

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« on: 06-18-2008 20:32 »

I just watched the beast with a billion backs, and I have to say... I am seriously disappointed.


If You Do Not Want To Know What Happens,


Then  Read  NO  FURTHER!!!


I felt the film was rushed, and lacked substance to the storyline. No where near as good as Bender's Big Score. The plot was utterly ridiculous. I have been a Futurama Fan since day 1. I know Futurama inside and out, and I really feel like they spent no time on this witht the plot. I mean sure, it was going to be hard to top the last film, but damn, this just plain SUCKED!

O.k., It had a few decent moments and I have only watched it once. Maybe it will grow on me while await the next film. I doubt it though. It pretty much stunk!

Just my opinion...
Seymour_My_Hero

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« Reply #1 on: 06-18-2008 20:48 »
« Last Edit on: 06-18-2008 20:48 »

People can read further. It doesn't ruin anything!  big grin
limegreenaffair

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« Reply #2 on: 06-21-2008 00:35 »

It was a like a really okay fanfic.
I was disappointed
Xanfor

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« Reply #3 on: 06-21-2008 01:09 »

I feel the exact opposite. That is, BBS sucked and BWABB was golden.

The again, to each their own. It's the internets after all. Let the showdown begin!  wink
Spy

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« Reply #4 on: 06-21-2008 20:34 »

I'm in agreeance with BenderBot3000 on this one...
Bendersfan1221

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« Reply #5 on: 06-21-2008 20:57 »

I though BWaBB was much better then BBS.
ShepherdofShark

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« Reply #6 on: 06-21-2008 21:13 »

I thought BWaBB was 97%-103% as good as BBS.

Since they're both great I don't see how it matters.

To further illustrate my pointless point I would like to add that I think that "Love and Rocket" is 91% as good as "The Why of Fry", but only 89% as good as "The Farnsworth Parabox"
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #7 on: 06-22-2008 07:11 »

 
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Originally posted by Bendersfan1221:
I though BWaBB was much better then BBS.

B..b..b..but you have a BBS avatar  tongue...
Bendersfan1221

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« Reply #8 on: 06-22-2008 11:57 »

Meh, I don't care, I like the avy even if I think BWaBB was better my avy is so Bender. I still like BBS.
frowntown

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« Reply #9 on: 06-22-2008 13:44 »

Well I've seen it too and I thought that it was a vast improvement on Bender's Big Score...

I thought firstly the animation was vastly better than the first which didn't seem right to me and that the jokes were much funnier in BWaBB....

The problem with BBS was that the plot was over complicated and hard to follow, but with BWaBB the plot was understandable (though Bender' subplot didn't really make much sense)...

Did anyone notice the Pirates of the Caribbean 2 reference near the end? (hope not spoiling anything, i remained vague)
Anarchy_Balsac
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« Reply #10 on: 06-22-2008 17:07 »

My problem with BBS is that there were too many flashbacks to the Leelu story, which was pretty boring. It would have been nice if they'd just had Lars explain it in a matter of seconds instead. BWaBB didn't have that problem, though there could have been more of Yivo and less of Colleen.
dr.bender nye

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« Reply #11 on: 06-24-2008 03:25 »
« Last Edit on: 06-24-2008 03:25 »

I have now started to like BWABB more than BBS because BBS kinda destroyed Jurassic Bark and Luck of the Fryrish endings, and even though it was very compact, pretty much everyone had a story to tell.
Diggidydaffodil

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« Reply #12 on: 06-24-2008 07:46 »

When i first watched BBS i had this horrible sinking feeling, it just wasn't up to the standard that i thought it would be, however i have since then watched it a few times and its really grown on me.  BWaBB i liked immediately, i found it to be much funnier and i think that's why, humour gets you straight away whereas plotlines can sometimes take more than one viewing to truly appreciate.

I do agree with frowntown about the Bender subplot though.
WaxRobotNap

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« Reply #13 on: 06-30-2008 10:11 »

Whats with that superman joke in BWBB.... kinda family guyish dont you think?.. The movie was very good by the way 10 times better then the first.
ALequalsGREAT

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« Reply #14 on: 06-30-2008 11:15 »

I enjoyed both movies, but at this point BBS is still my favorite.
The great jokes and self-absorbed characters may have attracted me to Futurama so many years ago, but the complicated plots, sub-plots and multiple storylines have kept me interested far more than those former simple devices ever could. With that in mind BWABB was, for the most part, fun to watch; I felt that it propelled the stories of the characters much less than BBS and therefore was a bit more diversionary. Don't get me wrong, I saw Fry maturing a lot more in BWABB which was encouraging (and perhaps the main point I took with me)- I am much less interested in the Amy/Kif/Zapp fiasco (although Amy and Kif are not pivotal characters to me), and the League of Robots was a generally funny foil for the action with Yivo.
One thing I did not care for was the choice of David Cross to play as Yivo. I simply disliked the flippant attitude it gave to that character and I hardly ever found it humorous (this is from a person who has watched his fair share Mr. Show <3 <3 , so I am not simply a hater... big grin ).
Let it be noted that I am looking through a shipper's eyes, so my main interest in these films is the advancement of the central figure- Futurama may have taken some side roads in the past but I feel it has never lost sight of the ultimate impact on Fry's life and relationships, and I have high expectations for a catharsis at the end of this four-part 'movie'.
I have only watched BWABB 2 times so I am sure I will have more opinion to give later
  roll eyes
WaxRobotNap

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« Reply #15 on: 06-30-2008 11:32 »

In what way was Yivo mating with the humans? Why was that forgotten about later in the episode?
What was Yivos goal? was it mating or was it to have people living on him not contacting other universes. Why didn't he want people to contact other universes... that seemed random to me.. I feel like that was only in the story line to stir up trouble. I may be missing deeper meanings I only watched it once so far.
futuramajunkie

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« Reply #16 on: 06-30-2008 13:27 »

i didnt really like either of the movies that much. i was pretty dissapointed by both, although BBS was a little better. they just weren't clever like the original shows were.
psm2201

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« Reply #17 on: 06-30-2008 14:58 »

i like the film, but to be honest i thought it was a bit rubbish, really dissapointed. they could of done alot better...just hoping that the other 2 movies are going as good as benders big score.
ShepherdofShark

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« Reply #18 on: 06-30-2008 16:42 »

Yivo is an immensely powerful but needy entity - as proved by his phone message to the universe, his apology when Leela discovered the truth and most tellingly, his "popping the question" after what basically equates to a one-night stand followed by a single date.

Brilliant juxtaposition by the writers that the character is the ultimate polygamist, and yet is also possessive and jealous in the extreme.
ALequalsGREAT

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« Reply #19 on: 06-30-2008 17:02 »

 
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Originally posted by ShepherdofShark:
Brilliant juxtaposition by the writers that the character is the ultimate polygamist, and yet is also possessive and jealous in the extreme.

It ties in to the pervasive 'love' idea which was represented in a myriad of ways throughout BWABB- it was certainly well executed and works  very well as a meta-commentary I thought...
Anarchy_Balsac
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« Reply #20 on: 06-30-2008 17:04 »

 
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Originally posted by WaxRobotNap:
In what way was Yivo mating with the humans?

Possibly non-reproductively using schler own bio contraceptives?

 
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Originally posted by WaxRobotNap:Why was that forgotten about later in the episode?

It wasn't, the "genticles" show up on "mattress island"

 
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Originally posted by WaxRobotNap:What was Yivos goal?

To got a cheap thrill, then later to marry universe A/universe gamma

 
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Originally posted by WaxRobotNap: Why didn't he want people to contact other universes...

Because the electro-matter used in doing so could be used to kill shclim.

THM

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« Reply #21 on: 07-02-2008 17:59 »

I've said it elsewhere, I know, but it bears repeating:

I loved it. I spent the entire time either laughing really hard or going 'Man, that's just nasty!' ('Cause they sure did amp up the gross factor on this one, didn't they?)

The stories were interesting, the jokes flowed thick and fast, the music seemed better this time (i.e., not like the whole score was lifted from the video game)...there were a couple of sour notes, true; Amy seemed to jump into bed with Zapp (ugh) a little quickly, I'm willing to concede that Kif's return was a little too easy, and I guess the idea that Yivo was committing a universe-wide case of sexual assault doesn't sit very well with a show that doesn't tend to get that dark - and the fact that Leela takes an awfully long time to realise that she's a tad annoyed at Fry for dropping a six-year obsession and shacking up with some lush polyamorist (not that Leela was wowed about the obsession when Fry acted out of nothing else)...but really? Minor points. This was a step forward in terms of quality, in just about every area. If things continue like this, BG will be something to treasure.

Roll on November, I say. big grin
futz
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« Reply #22 on: 07-03-2008 10:53 »

I liked BwBB much more than BBS on my first viewing. Much funnier and visually pulls the viewer in as well as exploring new places.

My quibbles, and they are minor, would be the almost straight equivalence of physical sexual desire and not-of-this-world religious love. I think most established religions would point in the direction that the opposite is true. And if you equate to sex then you would also have to include desire for wealth, power, etc. It might have helped in character development if Yivo had a broader range of temptations for our universe. But there is only so much you can put on one DVD and Yivo would be the Devil then not merely another universe.

Second, the interface of Yivo as single- entity universe seemed a bit awkward writing-wise when he was dealing with our universe made up of quadrillions of entities with no collective entity.
Frisco17

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« Reply #23 on: 07-04-2008 09:05 »
« Last Edit on: 07-04-2008 09:05 »

Ok, I'm back from Germany and finally got to watch BWABB last night.

I thought it was good but slightly less so than BBS. It was definitly hilarious, particularly the name "Chesty McNagNag." I thought the Bender sub-plot was fantastic especially the ending. All the interactions between the Professor and Wornstrom were amazingly well done too.

My only real complaint is that Fry seemed drastically out of character. He completely forgot about Leela after years of focusing on almost nothing else, he seemed desperate and lonely at times and almost evil at others. All in all the he just didn't feel right to me. Bender, Leela and Zapp seemed spot on though.
futz
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« Reply #24 on: 07-04-2008 11:32 »

It was a bit surprising that he wanted to bail on the 31st Century after he just got back. But that's how he got to be the 1st contact with Yivo. I just hope each new DVD episode won't have a Fry breakdown/crying scene due to female problems. It's about time some one like Hermes tells him, "You want to get married? Are you crazy? Why buy the whole cow when the store delivers cake by the slice?"
Frisco17

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« Reply #25 on: 07-04-2008 13:53 »

Something I forgot to mention earlier was one of my favorite parts of the movie. Near the end when Kif is explaining what Fonfon ru means to Amy and Zapp makes a comment Kif nails him in the stomach. I'm not sure why but that brought me endless amounts of joy. 
Kifz

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« Reply #26 on: 07-04-2008 14:48 »

Frankly, I was disappointed with BWaBB. The first half was ok, then I started feeling that the story was getting weird, like its components were loose, not a coherent whole. The whole League of Robots part was pointless and not interesting. Turning what might have been a great fight-the-monster story turned into a simplistic stay in the judeo-christian heaven (with some aspects of the muslim heaven thrown in). The silly face on Jivo was the coup de grace. Nevertheless, there were many parts that I did like; its the whole that I'm lukewarm about. The commentary wasn't that funny or interesting either. I give BWaBB E for effort.
Just to clarify things, when I got the DVD I was ready to levitate of happiness (no genticles needed), but 2/3 through it there was little feeling of awe and pleasure. I WANTED to love the movie, but found out I couldn't.  frown
Anarchy_Balsac
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« Reply #27 on: 07-04-2008 18:31 »

I personally thought the plot twist of Yivo being a good guy and Bender being the ultimate evil that ruined things for everyone was great. It was totally unexpected. Even Leela learned to love Yivo. The thing is we were all expecting this to turn into a problem for everyone and that someone would have to save everybody, but then that's the problem. It would have been too predictable.
Sine Wave

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« Reply #28 on: 07-04-2008 18:55 »

Maybe, but it would have made sense.
Anarchy_Balsac
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« Reply #29 on: 07-04-2008 19:09 »
« Last Edit on: 07-04-2008 19:09 »

True, but the idea of Yivo being friendly can also make sense, especially since shcle's been too busy living alone to learn any manners. If anything didn't make sense, it was Yivo's ever ambiguous size, and how it supports 20 quadrillion life forms.
Ryan Ro

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« Reply #30 on: 07-04-2008 19:10 »

 
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Originally posted by Frisco17:
Something I forgot to mention earlier was one of my favorite parts of the movie. Near the end when Kif is explaining what Fonfon ru means to Amy and Zapp makes a comment Kif nails him in the stomach. I'm not sure why but that brought me endless amounts of joy. 

Kif finally growing a (figurative) backbone?  Punching Zapp in the gut? 

I CHEERED.
futz
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« Reply #31 on: 07-04-2008 19:33 »

Curious though, Zapp never strikes back which he has every right to do. Just seems to brush it off.

On my 1st watching I started to wear out about an hour into it. Just too much to take in at one viewing. 2nd watching the ending seemed better. Still didn't notice the joke with Adlai until I was browsing stills later on.
aLx194

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« Reply #32 on: 07-05-2008 01:35 »
« Last Edit on: 07-05-2008 01:35 »

there is an appearance from PAZOOZOO glad to see him back.
BenderBot3000

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« Reply #33 on: 07-06-2008 23:33 »

Great replies! I loved everyone's opinions, and I have to admit that since I originally posted this, BWABB has really grown on me. Although I love Fry, I am a Bender fan primarily. So while I enjoy the BWABB, I'm still partial to BBS.

So now I'm wondering who thinks these four films will garner enough of a following and attention to get Comedy Central to order up a deal for more episodes after the films?
Anarchy_Balsac
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« Reply #34 on: 07-06-2008 23:49 »

It looks like they are doing well enough that the idea will at least be given a look. I dunno as to whether or not it'll be restored as a series, given more DVD movies, or just offed.
Bones

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« Reply #35 on: 07-07-2008 08:18 »

Forget the issue of Yivo being able to sustain 20 quadrillion life forms, what bothered me was that apparently Bender's Pirate ship was then able to accomodate them all at the end.
I loved the extent that Bender would take his jealousy to, that's his character to a T.
I think it was a real cheat having Fry 'love' Coleen so soon afteer learning he had been Lars (you know what I mean). They do mention that in the commentary in a sort of "we know it's a cheat but we needed it for the plot" kind of way.
Another question I had, how did Bender manage to tear up the electro-matter so it could line the swords and grapples?
Also, I don't think Yivo was really enough of a threat to make Nibbler escape the universe, but how was he to know that. Is he coming back BTW?
I thought the movie was fun, funny and terrifying in a "last free-thinking person left in the universe" way. As ever if you don't think too hard about the plot holes and character instabilities it was good viewing. More please!
ALequalsGREAT

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« Reply #36 on: 07-07-2008 10:09 »

 
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Originally posted by Anarchy_Balsac:
It looks like they are doing well enough that the idea will at least be given a look. I dunno as to whether or not it'll be restored as a series, given more DVD movies, or just offed.

All of the dozen or so copies were out the last time I was in the local rental hut, I thought that a good sign  big grin
Agreed with Anarchy: with only the previews to go on I assumed the tentacles would be the prime antagonist in this story, but it turned out (once again) that Bender was the ultimate evil of sorts! As Bones said, hell hath no fury like the demonic armies of a robot scorned...  laff
jumpymonkey9

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« Reply #37 on: 07-12-2008 12:06 »

I wasn't too thrilled about either movie.  They both lacked the snappiness of the past seasons.  I almost regret buying BBS, and I'm glad I only rented BwaBB.  I don't think I'd watch them if they were on tv, what's the point.  I think they need to stick to short episodes that don't rely on a long storyline.
Frisco17

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« Reply #38 on: 07-13-2008 19:16 »

One thing I've noticed almost every time somthing is brought back for a second run is that a large number of the original fans don't like it. Futurama, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, I could keep going for hours. It seems to me that people build up this idea in their mind that the originals were absolute perfection so that when they see something new it has no chance against that backdrop. Granted the new movie have some holes in them, but so did most of the original episodes. I thought BBS was absolutly brilliant and BWABB, while rather strange, was good too. I mean there are obviously a few episodes that will likely never be topped, The Sting, Hell Is Other Robots and Devil's Hands for example. The movies are also considerably better than a few of the originals too. Like Obsoletely Fabulous or That's Lobstertainment
I.C. Weiner

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« Reply #39 on: 07-17-2008 03:59 »

I thought BwaBB was loaded with jokes and funny from beginning to end. Not to take anything away from BBS but I thought this movie was more reminiscent of the T.V. show. The third movie looks like a classic crazy episode like some of the Tales of Interest and I can't wait to see it.
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