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« Reply #80 on: 04-17-2009 23:21 »

I think you are Bear's fake account, that's what I think.
That or you're HYPNoBRECKY 2.
Ralph Snart

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« Reply #81 on: 04-18-2009 01:49 »

I think you are Bear's fake account, that's what I think.
That or you're HYPNoBRECKY 2.

Learn to quote posts that you're responding to.

Now, which of the newbies are you calling a duplicate account?
Gorky

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« Reply #82 on: 04-18-2009 04:51 »

I think he's calling leelasbluehair (oh, the grammatical and factual errors in that username, they pain me) the fake account, seeing as how he's the one who claims to be married to a cartoon character. Heyumugs is making a perfectly valid argument.

Although, actually, I'm starting to think that every newbie is just a fake account; there's got to be a finite number of Futurama fans out there. All these new folks, they're just pretendin'.
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« Reply #83 on: 04-18-2009 06:29 »
« Last Edit on: 04-18-2009 06:32 »

Less Celebrity Cameos and If a Celebrity does a Cameo they must play a new character unless they themselves are integral to the plot.

It honestly annoys me that the Simpsons and Futurama made such a big deal about celebrities. Why is it necessary to shoehorn in these people into episodes if their only purpose is to essentially shout out "Look at me. I'm Guest-Starring". It doesn't work in either show since in the Simpsons they are supposed to be an average family and it's even worse in Futurama since it is set 1000 years in the future.

I more or less feel the same way. This also reminds me that I've never really liked the head-in-a-jar concept...I'm sure it's been talked about countless times before, but it bothers me. How can deceased presidents' heads be reanimated? If heads can be kept alive for so long, why are only celebrities preserved? Why can only the head be preserved? Since "A Head in the Polls" shows that a head in a jar can be attached to a robot body and have that body function properly, why not just build lifeless robot bodies for all these heads? Sure, a lot of material for both stories and individual jokes has come from these heads, but I would have liked it much more if the only head was Nixon; his 1994 death could have been a cover-up of some sort while his head was kept alive using top-secret technology which may have also been shared with a FEW others.

If the writers really wanted to have celebrities guest star as themselves, then perhaps they could be robot versions of themselves or something like that. Since, according to Futurama, audiences like seeing what they've seen before, then perhaps the entertainment industry would have built recreations of popular actors (this would explain Calculon "being" David Duchovny while taking away its joke factor) and other celebrities (such as Patchcord Adams).

Although, actually, I'm starting to think that every newbie is just a fake account; there's got to be a finite number of Futurama fans out there. All these new folks, they're just pretendin'.

Oh dear, have I been found out?
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #84 on: 04-18-2009 06:35 »

Maybe Nixon's Head could have been preserved with Walt Disney's laff.
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« Reply #85 on: 04-18-2009 13:48 »



Yes I'm a newbie and I haven't figured out to pull quotes yet.  So I'll try this on the fly. 

First, thank you speedracer and gorky for your comments.  I love getting some feedback on this Leela standing on Frida's corpse scene.  I need to put it behind me and this might be the only way.  Thanks again.

Just a few things though about what you brought to my attention.
 
Speedracer - in "Hell is for other Robots" although Leela says "she'll do it!" (Risk Fry's life in a violin contest) she's the one who bashes the Robot Devil with the Gold violin which leads to Fry's escape (and her's and Bender).  In other words, she was never going to allow Fry to be killed, nor would she ever - no matter what she might say.  Actions always speak louder than words.  As far as The Sting is concerned, yes the writers crack wise about Fry's death, but this is in Leela's imagination during her coma, as we know Fry never died.  And remember even then the Professor cracks one and then somberly says "I just made myself feel bad."  Nothing happened in The Sting even remotely approached Leela standing on a murdered woman's body.  Yes, Black humor is evident in Futurama but I don't feel it is terribly significant.  More of a side -note.  Futurama humor is more in-your-face than Dark. 

Gorky - You're right that being eatin alive is disrespectful and pretty damn creepy!  But he was devoured by an alien overlord or emperor or whatever.  Lrrr was in character.  By the way, I did feel sorry for Free, jr. 

I do understand that Leela standing on Frida's corpse was a joke about the horribly dying ways of the Waterfalls and not a joke about Leela.  While that may have been the writer's intent, I think in this case they were way off base.  Frida was already dead.  As you know, killed by the Dark One.  I think they felt her death scene wasn't funny as being eatin alive or squashed by a giant mechanical claw.  So they had to kick it up a notch.  They had Leela desecrate her corpse.  For me, that went from a joke to something stunningly crude and mean-spirited.  Not sure what's funny about it.  And even though the joke isn't about Leela, it still involved Leela making the decision to stand on a murdered woman's body and proceed to calmly talk on the phone.  I just can't give them a pass on this one just because it involved a Waterfall. 

And yes, Leela was more in character in this movie than the others, but not in this scene - I still maintain she never, ever would have behaved this crass.  No way. 

Ok, thanks again - I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this scene.  I was just curious if anyone else was disturbed by it.  Jeesh, if I'm the only one, what does that say about me?! 


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« Reply #86 on: 04-18-2009 13:52 »

Well, seeing someone dead in a telephone booth is shocking, she probably didn't know what she was doing (could have been checking to see if her mind was playing tricks).
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« Reply #87 on: 04-18-2009 13:59 »
« Last Edit on: 04-18-2009 14:01 »

heyumugs: I can't quote that because it's way too long. But you see a little sign in the top right corner of any post? Click that and that quote will come in the comment box.
And if you want effects like smileys, press preview when you've done your message and click a smiley.
Preview also enables italics, bold, underline, strikethroughs, just highlight the place of text and press B, I, U or S.

There we go.  smile

Edit: Oh I have to post something on topic. The Leela standing on Frieda scene was intended to be comedic, but it could not be to sensitive people who think it's rude. Only people who are fine with the humor of Futurama would find this funny.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #88 on: 04-18-2009 23:06 »

Tedward: This bit from an interview with David X. Cohen worries me-

Is there anyone you've always wanted to get on the show and if Futurama would come back on the air, or in another DVD you would go after?

There are certain musicians who I like, where it would be an excuse to meet them, like some of the surviving members of Led Zeppelin. Or David Bowie or Ice Cube, who I have met but he hasn't been on the show. I would like to get some more real scientists on, like Stephen Hawking, just to hype up the real science.


I'm glad he wants to get more scientists on the show (scientists certainly qualify under my conditions for a worthy guest star) but the part I bolded is troublesome thinking. It at least explains how Lucy Lui and Pauly Shore got spots frown.
Future Shock

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« Reply #89 on: 04-19-2009 02:56 »

What about Daniel Radcliffe?
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #90 on: 04-19-2009 03:48 »

What about him?
Future Shock

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« Reply #91 on: 04-19-2009 04:14 »

A guest star. It could be a bit futuristic. They've replaced all their wand commands with a touch screen so they touch the spell and the spell is done. Actually now that I said it they can't do that.
coldangel

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« Reply #92 on: 04-19-2009 04:16 »

That would be truly horrible.
Future Shock

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« Reply #93 on: 04-19-2009 04:17 »

However the spells are like apps. Expecto patronum costs $3.75 from the Spell Store (App Store)
coldangel

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« Reply #94 on: 04-19-2009 04:20 »

No, no... please stop now. It hurts.
Future Shock

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« Reply #95 on: 04-19-2009 04:23 »

kk. But it would be awesome if Barack Obama was on it. Simpsons is trying to get him and they could have an obama head-in-a-jar before them. Haha, take that Simpsons!
coldangel

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« Reply #96 on: 04-19-2009 04:25 »

I reckon it would be cool if one of these shows could organize to have Fidel Castro provide his voice before he dies.
Tedward

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« Reply #97 on: 04-19-2009 06:45 »

Tedward: This bit from an interview with David X. Cohen worries me-

Is there anyone you've always wanted to get on the show and if Futurama would come back on the air, or in another DVD you would go after?

There are certain musicians who I like, where it would be an excuse to meet them, like some of the surviving members of Led Zeppelin. Or David Bowie or Ice Cube, who I have met but he hasn't been on the show. I would like to get some more real scientists on, like Stephen Hawking, just to hype up the real science.


I'm glad he wants to get more scientists on the show (scientists certainly qualify under my conditions for a worthy guest star) but the part I bolded is troublesome thinking. It at least explains how Lucy Lui and Pauly Shore got spots frown.

Nice find...I agree that more scientists would be very nice (I'd prefer if they weren't mere heads of course), and that giving guest parts just for the sake of meeting the guests (if that's what he really meant) is not terribly reassuring. I suppose that it is actually a good way to meet people, but for the show itself such guest spots don't always work (as has already been said).
Future Shock

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« Reply #98 on: 04-19-2009 06:47 »

I'm surprised how many times Al Gore and Stephen Hawking have been on Futurama and Simpsons. We're lucky they have spare time.
heyumugs
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« Reply #99 on: 04-19-2009 06:55 »


Future Shock: thanks for the tip on quoting!  Newbies need all the help we can get.  

As far as -

"Edit: Oh I have to post something on topic. The Leela standing on Frieda scene was intended to be comedic, but it could not be to sensitive people who think it's rude. Only people who are fine with the humor of Futurama would find this funny."

I am a die-hard fan of Futurama, it is without a doubt one of the best shows of all time.  An absolute personal favorite of mine.  There's no way I could feel this way if I wasn't "fine with the humor of Futurama".  This is the only scene that has impacted me this way.  Anyways, Futurama fans are not clones who all laugh at the same gags.  One can appreciate dark humor in many scenes ( the waterfall being eatin by Penguins I thought was hilarious) and still come across a scene that  he or she finds way too crass as  I did with this scene.  

You don't have to be a kool-aid drinker to love Futurama.  Maybe Tang or Hi-C, ...
(I need to put a smiley face here but I still haven't mastered it!!)
 



Future Shock

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« Reply #100 on: 04-19-2009 06:56 »

When you've written your post DO NOT press Post, press preview, and a row of smileys will come. Press one, and a symbol will come on your message. It won't be a smiley, but when you post it, it will be.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #101 on: 04-29-2009 06:25 »
« Last Edit on: 04-29-2009 06:30 »

There is a relationship in Futurama that has been handled masterfully. Every season built it up closer through a ton of little moments and some big moments until it eventually became part of the fabric of the show itself. That relationship is of Fry and Bender.

A personal conversation with iceiwynd led me to conclude that as much as I enjoy F & L's relationship the writers didn't do as good a job with it as they could have. Other than S4 (where they are very close friends) the writers were perfectly happy to leave their relationship as neutral except for a few choice episodes that called for it to be more positive than neutral.

Compare that to F & B's relationship which is used as a catalyst for plots in many episodes (103, 206, 217, 305, 320, and 408 to name a few) and is at least referenced in many other episodes ( Examples: 302- "You mean they know how to make Ice Cream Soup?", 412- "Who will make Bender waffles just like he likes them now?")

What I'm saying is that I wish that the writers had built up F & L's relationship as well as they had built up F & B's. I still like what they managed to do but I think they could have done more.

P.S. To be fair I think with 302 and 314 the writers were testing if Futurama fans would even like F & L to be in a romantic relationship. When word got to them that fans liked this dynamic they decided to make it a bigger focus of S4 (where it reached F & B levels of writing). Had the series continued their relationship would have continued to be handled as well as F & B's.

Hopefully the writers will take a tip from F & B's relationship as a guide on how to do F & L's once the show starts up again (you'll never kill my optimism. NEVER!!!!!).

P.P.S. What does ONE thing mean? wink.
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« Reply #102 on: 04-29-2009 06:58 »

fistfuloawesome
season 4  of futurama had only 5 episodes
Jezzem

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« Reply #103 on: 04-29-2009 07:08 »

What the hell are you talking about? It had 18 episodes!  mad
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #104 on: 04-29-2009 16:05 »
« Last Edit on: 04-29-2009 16:10 »

leelasbluehair: If you mean American Broadcast Season (I can't help you on how it was run in other countries) it had 12 episodes (http://www.gotfuturama.com/Information/EpisodeGuide/Season4/)

If you mean Production Season, as Jezzem has pointed out it has 18 episodes (http://www.gotfuturama.com/Information/EpisodeGuide/4ACV/)

If you mean relating to Fry and Leela, there are 6 episodes that explicitly deal with the ship and 4 with them being friendly for a total of 10 episodes. They are:
Shippy- 403, 409, 410, 412, 415, and 418
Friendly- 402, 404, 407, 416
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« Reply #105 on: 04-29-2009 16:07 »

no 5 episodes or even 4 if you count probably look
4x01-kif gets knucked up a notch
4x02-leela's homeworld
4x04-love and rocket
4x05-where no fan has gone before
Jezzem

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« Reply #106 on: 04-29-2009 16:37 »
« Last Edit on: 04-29-2009 16:39 »

Season 4:
401-Kif Gets Knocked Up a Notch
402-Leela's Homeworld
403-Love and Rocket
404-Less than Hero
405-A Taste of Freedom
406-Bender Should Not Be Allowed on Television
407-Jurassic Bark
408-Crimes of the Hot
409-Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles
410-The Why of Fry
411-Where No Fan Has Gone Before
412-The Sting
413-Bend Her
414-Obsoletely Fabulous
415-The Farnsworth Parabox
416-Three Hundred Big Boys
417-Spanish Fry
418-The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings

EDIT: Forgot the   mad
coldangel

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« Reply #107 on: 04-29-2009 16:46 »

leelasbluehair downloads illegally, so he/she/it probably only managed to get a hold of four or five on Torrent and decided that they were the only ones. Moron. Stupid thieving moron.
Jezzem

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« Reply #108 on: 04-29-2009 16:48 »

It would probably explain why he thinks the episodes in season four go in the order: 401, 402, 404, 405
speedracer
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« Reply #109 on: 04-29-2009 19:32 »

There is a relationship in Futurama that has been handled masterfully. Every season built it up closer through a ton of little moments and some big moments until it eventually became part of the fabric of the show itself. That relationship is of Fry and Bender.

A personal conversation with iceiwynd led me to conclude that as much as I enjoy F & L's relationship the writers didn't do as good a job with it as they could have. Other than S4 (where they are very close friends) the writers were perfectly happy to leave their relationship as neutral except for a few choice episodes that called for it to be more positive than neutral.

Compare that to F & B's relationship which is used as a catalyst for plots in many episodes (103, 206, 217, 305, 320, and 408 to name a few) and is at least referenced in many other episodes ( Examples: 302- "You mean they know how to make Ice Cream Soup?", 412- "Who will make Bender waffles just like he likes them now?")

What I'm saying is that I wish that the writers had built up F & L's relationship as well as they had built up F & B's. I still like what they managed to do but I think they could have done more.

P.S. To be fair I think with 302 and 314 the writers were testing if Futurama fans would even like F & L to be in a romantic relationship. When word got to them that fans liked this dynamic they decided to make it a bigger focus of S4 (where it reached F & B levels of writing). Had the series continued their relationship would have continued to be handled as well as F & B's.

Hopefully the writers will take a tip from F & B's relationship as a guide on how to do F & L's once the show starts up again (you'll never kill my optimism. NEVER!!!!!).

P.P.S. What does ONE thing mean? wink.

I think the F&L deal was rushed through season 4 because of the show's impending cancellation, along with some other threads (Leela meeting her parents and the story between Fry's freezing come to mind).

As an aside, The Why Of Fry just aired on SkyTV, and over the credits the SkyTV announcer said "Rebound, Fry.  Don't do it!" before proceeding to announce the rest of the evening's lineup.  So cynical. 
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« Reply #110 on: 04-29-2009 19:56 »
« Last Edit on: 05-01-2009 07:06 by [-mArc-] »

first I don't download from torrent because It doesn't work very well on my computer.I recorded 2 episodes of season 4 of futurama from sky 3 and from polish tv.  or download from here [link removed]
4x01-I don't have It yet
4x02-recorded from sky 3
4x04-downloaded with polish subs, recorded from polish tv
4x05-recorded from polish tv,recorded from sky3
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« Reply #111 on: 04-29-2009 19:58 »

Nothing at all. This thread isn't paradox safe. Chaning one thing could create a paradox so weird that Futurama never existed!

..but If I would change something it would be to do more appearances of my favorite 2nd character, though not so he becomes a main character or anything silly like that ^^. Just slightly wink
Jezzem

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« Reply #112 on: 04-30-2009 06:26 »

leelasbluehair, just because you only have/know of 4 episodes of season 4 doesn't mean that's how many there actually are
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« Reply #113 on: 04-30-2009 07:09 »

yes they are
Jezzem

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« Reply #114 on: 04-30-2009 07:21 »

that doesn't even make sense...
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« Reply #115 on: 04-30-2009 07:29 »

leelasbluehair:

Look you stupid bastard:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futurama_Season_4#Season_4:_2002-2003

Now shut the fuck up with your bullshit.
Jezzem

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« Reply #116 on: 04-30-2009 07:54 »

Don't even bother Coldy, I tried and it's useless. He's just too stupid...
coldangel

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« Reply #117 on: 04-30-2009 09:59 »

He frustrated me so much that I went out and murdered a homeless person to vent.
I told myself I'd never do that again, but the bastard got under my skin and now I've broken a seven month streak.
Jezzem

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« Reply #118 on: 04-30-2009 10:10 »

ARE YOU HAPPY NOW LEELASBLUEHAIR YOU HEARTLESS BASTARD?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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« Reply #119 on: 04-30-2009 10:23 »

I wish each season had an XMAS and Anthology if Interest these were some of my favorite episodes.
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