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RogerWilco81

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« on: 01-25-2008 14:08 »

Greetings Y'all!!! I'm a noob, been a lurker for a while, thought it was time I made a post!

Big Futurama fan obviously, and I loved BBS! It was great to spend some time with my buddies from NNY again. I'm almost ashamed to say I didn't catch on to the Lars/Fry thing till the end of the movie, I should have though, but I'm used to hearing multiple characters voiced by Billy so I just didn't pay much attention. Do you guys think Lars might have felt a little guilty for stealing Lela away from himself, having experienced it from both perspectives? Do you think he would eventually reveal his true identity? I have a feeling he might have at the "funeral" if Fry didn't show up. I bet that kinda pissed Fry off when they did find out his true identity after Lars sacrificed himself. If he never went back an hour for the pizza then HE would be Lars and finally win Lela's heart
THM

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« Reply #1 on: 01-25-2008 14:25 »
« Last Edit on: 01-25-2008 14:25 »

I'd say...no. Not because he's a 'bad person', but because...he may be calling himself a different name, and is more grown-up, but he's still Fry, and Fry was never one to think too far ahead. Once he finds out that he is Lars (and that therefore he's going to win Leela over), I don't think he considers the consequences. But it wouldn't have lasted - he hadn't removed the tattoo (which ended up being a good thing for everyone else), so if he had married Leela, well, she would've seen his butt at some point, and the truth would've come out. It's all a bit convoluted and self-creating; Lars ends up creating himself. Sort of.

So my short answer is no.    smile

And welcome to PEEL.

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Bendersfan1221

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« Reply #2 on: 01-25-2008 14:25 »
« Last Edit on: 01-25-2008 14:25 »

Current Fry could have possibly become Lars. But he would have had to have thought about staying at Pannuccis. Theres all kinds of alternate times lines that could have happened. There are people here who are better than me at explainig all this. I think that Fry was actually more suprised becuase of his reaction. It made Leela realize that she could love Fry. Even though she has fallen for Fry before.

I don't think Larss felt guiklty though because he was Fry he was just stealing Leela from himself.

THM I'm sure they had had sex but Leela didn't examine his ass to closely or maybe she didn't look at it at all.

Welcome to PEEL by the way.
THM

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« Reply #3 on: 01-25-2008 14:38 »

 
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Originally posted by Bendersfan1221:
THM I'm sure they had had sex but Leela didn't examine his ass to closely or maybe she didn't look at it at all.

Granted; but she'd have noticed the tattoo at some point - they're in the shower together, or he gets out of bed first in the morning to get his shower (and being more 'mature', Lars probably would do that  smile )...maybe it would've taken a while, but even Fry's luck would've run out eventually.


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« Reply #4 on: 01-25-2008 15:34 »

Great...another phake account! :-P
>_>
homerjaysimpson

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« Reply #5 on: 01-25-2008 17:19 »

Fake my ass!
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« Reply #6 on: 01-25-2008 18:39 »

Lars is fry!
SonicPanther

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« Reply #7 on: 01-25-2008 19:49 »

 
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Originally posted by Books:
Lars is fry!

Lars is Hermes.

See, this is why this thread doesn't make sense.

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« Reply #8 on: 01-25-2008 20:26 »

He didnt because he already know that he had stolen Leela
Decapodian

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« Reply #9 on: 01-25-2008 23:44 »

Shouldn't this thread be in the Human Resource Dep?
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #10 on: 01-26-2008 09:17 »

I hope Lars did feel guilty about delaying the new Metallica album... again!
trickster381

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« Reply #11 on: 01-26-2008 09:35 »

A gridy in your face no, Lars did not feel guilty at all, I think
Futurama Llama

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« Reply #12 on: 01-27-2008 14:54 »

Fry wouldn't BE Lars had Bender not shot the lightning gun thingy (where did he get that, anyway?) His voice was altered, as was his appearance, and that is what made him Lars. Had the explosion not happened, he'd look like an older Fry. I don't know who I'm talking to, or why this thread is still going, but oh well.
FryBender4

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« Reply #13 on: 02-14-2008 17:33 »

Somehow to me Lars was smarter than Fry
LuvFry

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« Reply #14 on: 02-15-2008 09:45 »

Not smarter, just more mature. With age comes wisdom and all that nonsense.
PazuzuJr

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« Reply #15 on: 02-15-2008 12:00 »

I agree that Lars probally didn't feel guilty, but i got the feeling he felt a bit sorry for Fry. I mean, he would definatly be able to empaphise and understand how Fry felt since he'd already been though it. 
jerkberg

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« Reply #16 on: 02-15-2008 12:31 »

 
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
I hope Lars did feel guilty about delaying the new Metallica album... again!

It's not like it's going to be any good.
Futurama Llama

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« Reply #17 on: 02-16-2008 22:12 »

Oohh... burn!
futz
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« Reply #18 on: 02-16-2008 22:41 »
« Last Edit on: 02-16-2008 22:41 »

Maybe. Fry still has to go 17 more years to go to see if he outlives Lars.

That and I just have a strange feeling Lars forgot all about Leela when he met Dr. Cayhill. He's still Fry after all with his short memory and attraction to his female bosses.
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« Reply #19 on: 02-16-2008 22:54 »

I can't see why Lars wouldn't feel guilty over the original Fry's presence in the year 3007. It would be like torturing yourself. Lars fully knows how much he hated himself now back then when he was Fry and how much he loved Leela. Yes, Lars did spend much of his twelve years back in the year 2000 loathing himself over what he would become and his new relationship with Leela, but to go and make the original you and the original that isn't you anymore sit back and watch you and your and their lover get married, start a family, and live the rest of your life together is a terrible thing to put the original you through. If Lars' and Leela's relationship continued without ending from the laws of time travel, then I'm sure Fry of that time probably would've stayed jealous and would've literally gone mad.
limegreenaffair

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« Reply #20 on: 02-17-2008 04:27 »

Why would he feel guilty if Fry-Fry only wanted what was best for Leela?

Either way, Fry wins.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #21 on: 02-17-2008 10:58 »

Fry only realized he wanted Leela's happiness at heart after he sabotaged her wedding to Lars. If Lars didn't have that expiration date on him, then he would have continued the wedding. That means that Fry's efforts will be ignored and he would have continued to try to sabotage the relationship.
Futurama Llama

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« Reply #22 on: 02-17-2008 16:25 »

Wow. This is some really deep stuff. Do you think the writers wanted it to be read into this deeply?
RogerWilco81

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« Reply #23 on: 02-18-2008 00:08 »

You never know with the Futurama writers!!! That's what makes Lars so intriguing to me, he's Fry, yet he's NOT Fry. I'm wondering if we'll hear anything about him in the next movies, maybe a scene of Leela visiting his grave. I just think he's too cool a character to never allude to again. I wonder how the future movies would play out had Lars actually been the main Fry and "our fry" the doomed fry. It would probably be a shark jump, but still interesting to think about. Don't get me wrong, "our Fry" will always be the man but it'll be interesting to see what impact his character has on both Fry and Leela, if any in the upcoming movies.
NastyInThePasty

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« Reply #24 on: 02-18-2008 00:17 »
« Last Edit on: 02-18-2008 00:17 »

It would be interesting to see how Lars is inserted into the show's "mythology". I can't imagine Leela never thinking about him again, especially as she said that Lars was "The only man I'll ever love!". Maybe by the end of the four-movie cycle, Fry will begin to show signs of the maturity that Lars had, which will make Leela see him in a new light.

That said, there's a creepy, Vertigo vibe to Leela only becoming attracted to Fry because he's basically Lars 2.0.  hmpf It's like the whole worm thing in "Parasites Lost"...did Leela truly love Fry, or just what the worms made of him?
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #25 on: 02-18-2008 00:19 »

Leela: Yes... Yes... Yes... OH LARS!
Fry: Lars? You think about Lars when we do it?
Leela: ... no. I think about... you.
NastyInThePasty

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« Reply #26 on: 02-18-2008 00:21 »

Maybe Fry could counter by calling out "AMY!" in mid-coitus.  wink
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #27 on: 02-18-2008 00:24 »

Their sex life must be thrilling, but we should take it to the shipper's thread. It's a bit off-topic here.

I think Lars is just a one-time character. Leela will probably never think about him again and he will never be brought up again... just the way I prefer it.
Futurama Llama

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« Reply #28 on: 02-18-2008 06:45 »

How could Lars be a one-time deal? Eventually, Fry will becaome Lars (but still be Fry) becuase he'll age! Lars was just a more mature Fry, no?
Frisco17

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« Reply #29 on: 02-18-2008 21:46 »

Apart from his experience as a whale biologist, yes.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #30 on: 02-23-2008 10:46 »
« Last Edit on: 02-23-2008 10:46 »

 
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Originally posted by Futurama Llama:
How could Lars be a one-time deal? Eventually, Fry will becaome Lars (but still be Fry) becuase he'll age! Lars was just a more mature Fry, no?

If it wasn't for the fact that we're probably seperated by hundreds or thousands of miles, I'd slap you across the face for making that comment.

Fry isn't Lars. He will never become Lars. Ever. Lars spent twelve years of his life in a world where he with his family but without Leela. Fry is going to spend the next twelve years of his life most likely without his family but with Leela. Therefore, Fry's not going to be Lars because their lives will differ them.

Lars is dead now. If Futurama works like it has been for the past 72 episodes, a person like Lars will never be mentioned again because he was only used one time.
km73

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« Reply #31 on: 02-23-2008 23:53 »

A good way to think about it is that Lars was one possible potential outcome of what Fry could have been or become. The alternate reality that produced Fry-Lars occurred due to a definite set of circumstances. It could not/would not happen again that Fry will "become" Lars.
I also don't think Lars will be brought up again. He served his purpose; that purpose being to make Leela realize that she could truly love Fry. Or at least a version of Fry. It would be  surprising if any mention of Lars crops up in future movies, except perhaps if they opt to do a joking callback reference of some sort. Which would probably be pretty funny.
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« Reply #32 on: 02-24-2008 00:01 »

km73 summed it up. I agree with her. No, wait, I think she was agreeing with me. Let's just keep it as we both agree with each other.
km73

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« Reply #33 on: 02-24-2008 00:08 »

Good enough - and soon I'm going to go agree in the "changes to BBS" thread too, as soon as I figure out exactly what I want to say there.
SpaceCase

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« Reply #34 on: 02-24-2008 01:41 »

 
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Originally posted by km73:
... He served his purpose; that purpose being to make Leela realize that she could truly love Fry...
That purpose had already been served.
In the series.
Twice.

"Parasites Lost."
"Time Keeps on Slipping."

Both times Leela loved Fry 'for real'.
Or at least a 'version' of Fry.

Lars' existance was irrelevant; a cul-de-sac, in more ways than one.
I... I'm, uh, I'll just ooze back out under the door now...
km73

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« Reply #35 on: 02-24-2008 02:25 »

Yes, personally I think Lars had little point other than to cause me to like Fry even more, but I was justifying his existence in the movie. From the "point of view" of the movie, I mean. Although actually, it WAS rather ingenious how the character of Lars enabled Leela to get together with Fry without really getting together with Fry.

Which I've also said before.
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