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futz
Liquid Emperor
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First they'll have to be renewed for another season/DVD set but I think soon it's going to get squeeky tight on deadlines if they want to release the next batch this time next year. But then with 4 DVDs the releases would be every 3 months not 4. "Give us a raise you big fat jerk!" "Nevers!"
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i_c_weiner
DOOP Secretary
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All the movies are done. The only things I would think would be affected would be bonus features on Beast With a Billion Backs. I'm not sure that the strike will last into next fall, as to affect the subsequent movies features whatsoever. However, if the strike lasts into next summer, the SAG and DGA will likely join up with the WGA, so you never know.
In short, don't worry about the DVDs not being released. Also remember that the President of the WGA-West is Patric Verrone, a Futurama writer.
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futz
Liquid Emperor
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I did hear a news report over the weekend that a deal is close for Letterman, Leno, and other late night shows. Makes sense since I don't think they are large in DVD sales. But that may be one of those rumors started to make the other side go "Whaaa...?".
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Smitty
Professor
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Originally posted by futz: I did hear a news report over the weekend that a deal is close for Letterman, Leno, and other late night shows. Makes sense since I don't think they are large in DVD sales. But that may be one of those rumors started to make the other side go "Whaaa...?". Well it's the use of their work on the internet too, like catch-up clips and whatnot on the network websites.
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PMD
Crustacean
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I don't really get the writer's strike. Does every writer have to strike or what? I don't get that every writer has to strike.
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i_c_weiner
DOOP Secretary
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Every writer is in the guild. The guild has striked. Therefore, all writers must strike or they are no longer a part of the guild. Studios usually don't want non-guild writers, and the contracts made between the WGA and the studios is that they will only hire guild writers. That's why Carson Daly got bombed for using a joke hotline as a strike dodge because he didn't have any writers.
However, the guild can do special waivers or deals with individual studios. For example, the WGA has given waivers for writers to work on the SAG Awards and has made a deal so Letterman can come back with its writers, something Leno and Conan can't say.
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PMD
Crustacean
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Oh thanks for the explanation.
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chanukahzombie
Crustacean
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Originally posted by i_need_help: I heard somewhere that animation writers aren't affected by the strike. I could be wrong though.... No, they're all affected. It's kind of messed up because Seth MacFarlane walked out to join the strike but fox edited together some unfinished episodes to shove on the air. Animation is effected just like the others, it's just that the time it takes for it to be effected is longer because they need to do animation, voice-overs, etc.
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Officer 1BDI
Starship Captain
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Originally posted by i_need_help: I heard somewhere that animation writers aren't affected by the strike. I could be wrong though.... I keep hearing this too, but my understanding is that the writers of animated children's shows aren't a part of the WGA. So, stuff like Dora the Explorer won't be affected because those writers aren't, for the most part, associated with the WGA, but many of the mature animated show's writers (FG, Simpsons, etc.) are, so their shows are directly affected. I found the following in this article which I think clarifies things a little bit: Wolfman has also done considerable work in animation, an area that is traditionally covered not by the WGA but by local 839, a separate union. Whether or not an animated show can be represented by the WGA depends on whether or not it is already represented by 839, and if the company that owns the rights has an existing agreement with 839.
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FryFangirlLisa
Bending Unit
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« Reply #24 on: 01-11-2008 18:27 »
« Last Edit on: 01-11-2008 18:27 »
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I see. So apparently, animated shows for mature audiences are affected by the writer's strike.... Well, that's weird. Because other animated shows, such as anime dubs and children's cartoons aren't affected by the strike. And by the way, this is what a friend of mine said on another forum. ^^ Anime dubs won't be affected because they're covered by the Animation Guild, not the Writer's Guild. Same thing with children's programs such as Avatar. In fact, the only animated programs that will be affected will be the prime-time animated shows (The Simpsons, Family Guy, maybe South Park) since those programs are covered by the WGA. But since production on animated shows generally take around nine months, we won't see the first signs of a strike until later next year.
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harpenden
Crustacean
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Originally posted by i_c_weiner: All the movies are done. No; principal writing and recording are done on all four, but under normal conditions there would be LOTS more rewriting as the animation comes in. Originally posted by KurtPikachu2001: No, Futurama will not be affected by the writer's strike. In fact it almost certainly has been: if any animatic or color for movies 2-4 has been completed by Rough Draft during the strike, there has been no rewriting of it by the writers. But if the strike is concluded swiftly, the writers should be able to perform the usual rewriting tasks without interfering with the (still vague) release schedule. Originally posted by i_c_weiner: Every writer is in the guild. The guild has striked. Therefore, all writers must strike or they are no longer a part of the guild. Studios usually don't want non-guild writers, and the contracts made between the WGA and the studios is that they will only hire guild writers. Almost completely incorrect, even if "Writer" is assumed to mean "American TV or movie writer". Much animation writing -- nearly all original programming on Nick and Cartoon Network, for example -- is NOT covered by the WGA. Studios LOVE non-Guild writers because they don't have to pay them WGA minimums or make any health insurance or pension copayments. The WGA contract with the producers covers only writing that the studio agrees is Guild-covered; in practice this means most fiction programming on the major networks (including animation) but not so-called "reality" or (most) off-network animation. All WGA writers do NOT have to strike; they may elect to take what is called "fi-core" status, work for the studios without a Guild contract and maintain their Guild benefits, but they can't participate in the Guild's operations and it is generally considered such a sleazy thing for a writer to do that, despite reports, there are only three confirmed cases of writers going fi-core so far in this strike. Incidentally, although "The Simpsons" TV show is Guild-covered, the Simpsons movie was not. No major theatrical animated film has been Guild-covered. Originally posted by iceiwynd: (Patric Verrone is the president of the WGA, and he's a Futurama writer). Originally posted by Professor Zoidy: While this is true, if he wanted to write something for Groening he could, or he could be wavered Groening doesn't employ the Futurama writers; 20th Century-Fox Television does. As long as Verrone is a WGA member in full standing and the WGA is on strike, he cannot write for Futurama. The Guild has never granted waivers to individual writers, only to projects, e.g., the SAG Awards. The Letterman show didn't get a waiver; his production company agreed to the same contract that the Guild presented to the joint negotiators for the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers (an umbrella organization). The AMPTP refused and walked out, claiming that a production company would have to be crazy to agree to those terms. Since then, several (relatively small) producers have: United Artists, Lions' Gate, the Weinstein Company, Marvel, etc. The Guild has absolutely no incentive to grant a waiver to 20th Century-Fox to let it produce Futurama, since it regards Fox as one of the very worst offenders as far as its treatment of writers. Originally posted by seattlejohn01: Yesterday, I saw a news article that said the writers guild negotiators were headed back to the bargaining table. Many articles said this. It is false. The Guild never left the bargaining table; the AMPTP are the ones who refused to continue bargaining and walked out, back in mid-December. This may be verified by checking the coverage at the time. It is a measure of the producers' pernicious influence that many of the most trusted news sources in the country are repeating the baseless insinuation that "the writers have returned to the bargaining table". Originally posted by bobbot: Don't hold your breath. If the producers would just negotiate a fair settlement with WGA this would all be over. Correct.
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