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RatchetMan

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« on: 11-21-2007 13:51 »

So, now that we've seen the film, anybody want to hazard a guess at the meaning of the time code?

Here is the binary shown in the movie...
001100
010010
011110
100001
101101
110011

I didn't see any obvious ASCII messages hidden in there, but I did notice that the numbers made a picture.



Any other ideas?
Xanfor

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« Reply #1 on: 11-21-2007 14:58 »

The movie isn't even out yet.

RatchetMan

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« Reply #2 on: 11-21-2007 15:00 »

It is according to this DVD I'm looking at.
JBERGES

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« Reply #3 on: 11-21-2007 15:05 »

soylentOrange

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« Reply #4 on: 11-21-2007 16:24 »

regarding the tatoo:

Archonix

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« Reply #5 on: 11-21-2007 16:42 »

It's just a mirror image of itself with the reflection line across the centre. I don't think it actually has that much meaning.
JustNibblin

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« Reply #6 on: 11-21-2007 17:51 »

Hey, this topic is discussed a lot on the DVD commentary:

RatchetMan

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« Reply #7 on: 11-21-2007 21:01 »

Okay you're right. I just watched it again with the commentary on. I still figured that there would be more to it.
dr.bender nye

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« Reply #8 on: 11-22-2007 02:25 »

 
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Originally posted by RatchetMan:
So, now that we've seen the film, anybody want to hazard a guess at the meaning of the time code?

Here is the binary shown in the movie...
001100
010010
011110
100001
101101
110011

I didn't see any obvious ASCII messages hidden in there, but I did notice that the numbers made a picture.



Any other ideas?

Im no genius on binary, but some websites translate the code as 1'กท. I dont even know what that is.
RatchetMan

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« Reply #9 on: 11-22-2007 02:47 »

They mentioned in the commentary that it's supposed to be some kind of machine code for the god robot/thing. The computer scientist in me (seriously, I have a degree) might look more deeply at it later.
Xanfor

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« Reply #10 on: 11-22-2007 08:42 »

 
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Originally posted by dr.bender nye:
Im no genius on binary, but some websites translate the code as 1'กท. I dont even know what that is.


wu_konguk

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« Reply #11 on: 11-22-2007 08:57 »

Looks like 1 to 6 to me mirrored

001 =1
010 =2
011 =3
100 =4
101 =5
110 =6

maybe i am just being simplistic
Archonix

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« Reply #12 on: 11-22-2007 09:00 »

At this site It translates as 1'I, a dot that's half way up the line and then an STX, 'start of text' control code, which is also apparently rendered as a smiley face in DOS for some reason...

One Eye Face.
Xanfor

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« Reply #13 on: 11-22-2007 09:08 »

Simple ASCII.  wink

Archonix

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« Reply #14 on: 11-22-2007 09:16 »

ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI...
Xanfor

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« Reply #15 on: 11-22-2007 09:18 »

Facepalm.jpg
Archonix

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« Reply #16 on: 11-22-2007 09:26 »

I deserved that.

I shall have to remember that one.
dr.bender nye

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« Reply #17 on: 11-22-2007 11:04 »
« Last Edit on: 11-22-2007 11:04 »

   
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homerjaysimpson

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« Reply #18 on: 11-22-2007 16:39 »

 
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Originally posted by RatchetMan:


Any other ideas?

It looks like one big boob.  tongue
Xanfor

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« Reply #19 on: 11-22-2007 18:06 »

I don't know about Frida Waterfall's 'Father Time' theory, but I'm beginning to speculate about a 'Mother Time' theory...

I shall call it... 'M-Theory'.

km73

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« Reply #20 on: 11-23-2007 02:05 »

If the time code therefore has something to do with Leela, then that could tie in to the comment about the Other,

But I also originally thought it was supposed to represent either a picture of something, or stand for a word or phrase in binary.
jacoby

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« Reply #21 on: 11-23-2007 02:51 »
« Last Edit on: 11-23-2007 02:51 »

 
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Originally posted by wu_konguk:
Looks like 1 to 6 to me mirrored

001 =1
010 =2
011 =3
100 =4
101 =5
110 =6

maybe i am just being simplistic
This is the only explanation so far that actually seems to make sense to me.
homerjaysimpson

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« Reply #22 on: 11-23-2007 16:34 »

  tongue


"Sweet Guinea Pig of Winnipeg!"
dru26

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« Reply #23 on: 11-23-2007 22:29 »
« Last Edit on: 11-24-2007 00:00 by [-mArc-] »

[don't think so]
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« Reply #24 on: 11-23-2007 22:35 »

hey dru26, please get rid of that link.  Links to downloads are a sure way to get yourself in trouble with the mods on this board.
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #25 on: 11-24-2007 00:15 »

Hmm... When, and by whom, was it decided (in the  plot) that the tattoo should be Bender's face?
RobotDevilRox

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« Reply #26 on: 11-27-2007 13:46 »

What else can you think of to tattoo on Fry's ass?
Kryten

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« Reply #27 on: 11-27-2007 22:46 »

How 'bout YO' MAMA! Heh heh heh, naw, jus' kiddin'.
dr.bender nye

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« Reply #28 on: 11-28-2007 04:15 »

 
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Originally posted by Pikka Bird:
Hmm... When, and by whom, was it decided (in the  plot) that the tattoo should be Bender's face?

I thought that it was Bender's face/head they chose because the scene where you find out what it hides and Bender tells us what it says (Trying not to spoil it for some reason) It also reads out on his eyes. Although, that just might be a reflection of it.
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« Reply #29 on: 11-28-2007 11:22 »

 
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Originally posted by homerjaysimpson:
   tongue


I don't see how that's possible because she never traveled throught time at all. Interesting how it turns out to be 1i(forget how to make last carachter). Or we could just be over thinking everything.
LuvFry

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« Reply #30 on: 11-28-2007 15:20 »

 
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Interesting how it turns out to be 1i(forget how to make last carachter). Or we could just be over thinking everything.

Aw, but as geeky fans, that's what we're meant and expected to do. Don't forget we have three more movies for more to be made of it...
Nixorbo

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« Reply #31 on: 11-28-2007 15:44 »
« Last Edit on: 11-28-2007 15:44 »

 
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Originally posted by Pikka Bird:
Hmm... When, and by whom, was it decided (in the  plot) that the tattoo should be Bender's face?

Hurray for an ontological paradox!

So, where *did* the tattoo originate?
Asrial
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« Reply #32 on: 11-28-2007 15:44 »
« Last Edit on: 11-28-2007 15:44 »

So where did the code come from in the first place?   big grin

[EDIT: Hah, great minds think alike.. and at the same time too!]
Frisco17

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« Reply #33 on: 11-28-2007 19:06 »

I thought of that too. I if it was first put on by Bender from the end after taking it off "Lars'" corpse who had to have gotten it from Bender when he was Fry. It kinda goes in an endless loop. So I think it's either going to be explained in a later movie or it isn't meant to be rational, as evidenced by Nibbler.

Nibbler: "For any of this to make any sense at all somebody has to put the code on him in the first place."

(Or something to that affect. I only saw it once so cut me a break if it's wrong)
dr.bender nye

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« Reply #34 on: 12-06-2007 05:15 »

 
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Originally posted by Frisco17:
Nibbler: "For any of this to make any sense at all someone must take one trip to the past : to put the code on Fry's ass in the first place."
Yeh, I found that confusing. If it's a Paradox Correcting code, all of this would never have happened. Or is it that when the tattoo is placed, it still goes through out that time or that because humans can only travel forward in Cryogenic tubes or something?
Told you its confusing.
Naxon

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« Reply #35 on: 12-06-2007 12:47 »

wow, i haven't been on the boards for a long time, it's nice to back.

anyway, what we ought to do is try to figure out how the tattoo got on fry's ass in the first place, instead of trying to get how time affect everything and how it works.

if we figure these out we could maybe understand why it was placed on him, thus solving the big secret. :P
Kryten

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« Reply #36 on: 12-06-2007 16:20 »

The tattoo got there because Bender went backk in time and put it there. It's a cyclical paradox, or whatever the scientifical name for it is.
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #37 on: 12-06-2007 17:06 »
« Last Edit on: 12-06-2007 17:06 »

It's the secret of Time Travel.  Of course it arises from a stable time loop from no obvious creator.

I agree with the theory that it's just counting to six in binary

001
010
011
100
101
110

And then mirrored.  Also, when I type out the ASCII, I get entirely different characters...I mean, unless I've forgotten how to read bin, the first three don't even correspond to characters.  Where are you looking up this 1`i thing?

EDIT: I'm dumb.  I was taking all six six-bit values as separate and affixind 00 to make them bytes.  Your way makes sense too.

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km73

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« Reply #38 on: 12-06-2007 18:26 »

Random theory:
Regarding the origin of the tattoo - maybe the nebula-god thing has something to do with it.
dr.bender nye

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« Reply #39 on: 12-07-2007 06:16 »

Wait I think I get it now. Is it that a paradox correcting time code canges history but when placing the tattoo on Fry doesn't correct the paradox...or something?
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