Thoughts on 4ACV02 Leela's Homeworld...

[Reply #160 on:]

I just determined my favorite gag from this episode.

[Reply #161 on:]

 

Originally posted by BrainSluggo:
I haven't read a full page or seen more'n couple of minutes of any given version of Tank Girl, but I did get the calendar gag. It was fantastic seeing Amy playing a "bad girl."

It was so much like my dreams, it scared me.

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Originally posted by DrThunder88:
I just determined my favorite gag from this episode.

 

Heh heh. I love that one-legged mutant, he was cool.

I also laughed at the 3 armed mutant doing double-strokes while swimming. That looked hilarious.

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HomerJ, where you ever gonna post the script differences?

[Reply #164 on:]

I forgot about it and I don't what it to get rip from takeing it in and out of the plastc cover that I have for it.

[Reply #165 on:]

This episode was pretty good. I just hate how they gave away that Leela was a mutant in like the first five minutes of the show. It took away from the impact of the ending.

[Reply #166 on:]

I must say Tank Girl is not the greatest movie but it certianly has its moments and seeing Amy as the tank girl is great...I still laugh when i THink about amy being tank girl...oh well!

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Okay, we know who Leela's parents are. Now: does she have any brothers or sisters? I'm lookin' at you, Leg-Man! (What else did her parents have to do down there? She might have a whole Cletus-level barrel o'kinfolks down thair, hyuck!)

[Reply #168 on:]

I love this episode, it's cool how in both "The Luck of the Fryrish" and "Leela's Homeworld", the secrets to their pasts lay underground. The animation was great, especially some of those camera angles and the lighting. The long shot chase scene with the muties tying to catch Leela looked awesome and reminded me of The Lion King. The story was engrossing even though the main secret was let out early, some really great Fry-Leela scenes and the humour was superb too.

Considering this is an emotional story driven episode I thought that the jokes were done brilliantly, the professor was ever funny and Benders get rich quick schemes helped lighten up the episode without getting mixed up with the emotional stuff. It was great to see the muties again and I enjoyed seeing more of were they lived. I'd say this episode was one of the best although not quite up to the standards of "The Luck of the Fryrish", some inconstancies and choppy flow let it down. Still an awesome episode that I'm glad they made early because it might never have been made otherwise.

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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
I love this episode

Rich Little: "No arguments here."


 

Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
I'm glad they made early because it might never have been made otherwise.

Good point. I'd still prefered they'd held it back for later in the run. It takes too much substance out of Leela's character to have it all revealed this soon (don't get me wrong, she's still my favourite character  [ URL]Oh, yeah[ /URL]).

What really put this episode over the tope for me was the song montage at the end. That was incredible moving, getting all misty-eyed. 

[Reply #170 on:]

Well, i enjoyed it, although there has been a few eps about leela and the orphanariam. But it was good. I liked the part with the professors machine and the beeping. That bit was so stupid. 

[Reply #171 on:]

yeah, the musical bit at the end where it was reviewing her life n stuff got my eyes filled up a little bit too, Teral. I don't know why i'm like that. I nearly start crying in lots of programs where it is soo not upsetting. I must be a very emotional person. 

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I really wish I hadn't looked at the spoilers for this episode before I watched it.  Before the US premiere, it never even occured to me that Leela was a mutant, and although it was kind of given away at the end of the first act, it still would have been a nice surprise.

Anyway, I don't think it was too bad an episode.  I agree that there wasn't much humour in it, but I wouldn't say it was particularly duller than previous season four episodes up to now.

The toxic waste bit was good, and I liked the Professor's 'suspicious morons' line.  Picking on that leg mutant was funny too.  Apart from that, a lot of the other jokes fell flat, although compared to a lot of other episodes, it didn't seem like many were attempted.

This was definitely a story-led episode, which I usually tend to like, but there was just something about this one that made it a lot worse than 'Luck of the Fryrish' (although that IS possibly the best half-hour of television I've ever seen).

I thought the Bender sub-plot was pointless, and some parts dragged on too long, but on the plus side, it was great to see the mutants again.  I really like the idea that Leela is a mutant, and although, like some people, I think the episode should have been aired nearer to the end, I suppose it's nice to have the 'relevation' episodes spaced out.

Before watching this episode I'd read that the last thirty seconds made beautiful TV, which I totally agree with.  It's strange how the main plot stopped abruptly, though, after Leela found out about her parents.

Nice animation on Maurice's mouth, too. 

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You know when I said earlier about that scene where the muties chase Leela, here is a frame grab of the part I'm talking about
 
Thanx to cellery for finding it

Although it's hard to see any detail in the picture, while I was watching it I was reminded of The Lion King where all the lions chase. I don't know if you can see what I mean, but the smoothness of the animation looked computerised and was awesome 

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Beleive it or not, back in spring 1999, when I saw a picture of Leela for the first time, the first thought that went through my head was "mutated human".  If I hadn't been put off by all Matt Groening's crap about her being an alien, I could really brag about this.  Oh, well...
As for the episode itself, the plot's not very well organised, and Leela's parent's WERE revealed too early, but these are both nitpicks.  There's lots of funny moments in this, like Hermes tasting the toxic waste, Amy's comment on Leela winning the award from the Orphanarium - "Your parents must be so proud!", and Bender's waste disposal business.  And the second half of the episode is as good as "Luck of the Fryrish", especially at the end, the montage of Leela's parents watching over her as she grows up.  Five star episode.

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Originally posted by BrainSluggo:
I haven't read a full page or seen more'n couple of minutes of any given version of Tank Girl, but I did get the calendar gag. It was fantastic seeing Amy playing a "bad girl."

Judging from the early designs (on the DVD), Amy actually *was* at one point intended to be a 'bad girl'. Not that I'm complaining about how she turned out  , but it makes you wonder how things would have worked out if they'd gone in that direction.

(Mind you, there's also the 'massive eyeball-head space hooker Leela' picture on the DVD, so perhaps we shouldn't read too much into the early brainstorming!)

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Well, as I "spoiled" in another part of PEEL, Amy has displayed some minor criminal tendencies...she may even be taking cues from a certain bending unit.

(whips out handcuffs and, eh, "baton" ) ALL RIGHT! You can play "good cop," and I'll be...baaaaaaaad cop. Let's get 'er!

Wow, I still haven't seen the pre-production work yet. So much stuff on the DVDs, so little time...

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oh man, i wanna see the early designs. i hate reagion 1 dvd players!

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Region coding sucks, and so does FOX.

But Amy can snurch my heart any day. 

[Reply #179 on:]

I didn't like this episode.not enough humour.the end didn't make me cry.i think this was an attempt at a luck of the fryfish clone that failed.dissapointing.

[Reply #180 on:]

^ cold heart of a robut.

[Reply #181 on:]

 

Originally posted by KENNEDY:
i think this was an attempt at a luck of the fryfish clone that failed.dissapointing.

Although it pretty much Leela's "Fryrish", it's quite different and works well in different ways. Even the fact that some of the surprise was given away early shows that it's trying to be different in the way it tackles emotional content. I think it worked and even though it wasn't quite as affective, it was still a superb episode. After all, "The Luck of The Fryrish" is a very hard act to follow.

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LOtF and LH are my Top 2 favorites, and LH is #1. IMO
The ending to LH is as close as I've ever come to a TV show bringing me to tears. LOtF a close second...     

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Just the opposite for me. Fryish still leaves me mistyeyed at the end, and on the first viewing it brought tears to my eye. What I really loved about Fryish was that the ending came completely out of the blue. Neither Fry, nor the viewers knew anything about it, until it hit us.

Leela's Homeworld lacked that surprise ending. Noone really believed they were gonne let Leela shot her parents, we knew it would be a happy ending. The last montage and the song made up for it big-time though.

They're tied at #2 on my top-10..

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Originally posted by Teral:
Noone really believed they were gonne let Leela shot her parents, we knew it would be a happy ending.

Did we? They've killed people in the show before. They've had sad endings before. And could you imagine the what would happen if she had?
1) We'd still think she's an alien-
2) -Untill she eventualy finds out then is racked with guilt..
ect.. ect
bah anyways .. 

[Reply #185 on:]

The ending of "Leela's Homeworld" left me misty eyed, but I found some of those scenes at the end too funny to be able to get really emotional.

[Reply #186 on:]

Like this one?  Bart Simpson would have stopped here too...
 

[Reply #187 on:]

This was a touching episode. I have to admit that it left me a little misty eyed.

It was cute. SOOOO cute.

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Yeah, a really emotional ending.  More misty eyed every time I watch it now.

I still laugh at the -
*Warden to baby Turanga*
"Aw, what a cute gigantic eye you ha-aagh"
*Gets 'playfully' kicked in the face* - gag. 

Welcome Lesotho_Leela 

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ok, erdrik, what the hell is your avatar of? I can see fry's hand but i can't determine much more 

[Reply #190 on:]

aaaah come ON its Leela's ass!!!

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In Fry's crotch

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Originally posted by Tzlk:
aaaah come ON its Leela's ass!!!

 

Originally posted by Nixorbo:
In Fry's crotch

It looks more like Leela's other side that's in Fry's crotch to me.

[Reply #193 on:]

*BUMP*

[Reply #194 on:]

*Blows the dust of this thread*

2 years on and I finally see this ep....As with a few others, it's a shame that this one was spoiled for me (thank you PEEL) I thought it was a cool twist Leela being a mutant....and even though it was given away at the end of the first act it was still cool....

Incidentally, seeing her Mum and Dad looking up through the sewer freaked me out....!  I dunno just the looks on their faces really spooked me....

Only seen it once so will edit after the second viewing....

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Okay, I see Gleno's reasons for bumping this thread.  But what's with that Kryten post?

I read about this episode on PEEL before actually seeing it.  Oddly enough, it didn't ruin the episode the way the Radio Times ruined "The Sting".

On the other hand, it's so blatantly obvious that the cloaked couple are Leela's parents that my dad had it figured out before the commercial break.

It's a good episode, with one of the all-time best endings! 

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I haven't seen The Sting yet but I've heard how brilliant it is that every time I see a thread that could spoil it I look away double quick....

[Reply #197 on:]

This episode was okay but was largely flawed, and I felt that, strangely, a lot of the stuff that was cut out of the episode was funnier than the stuff they left in. Some of the deleted scenes on the DVD illustrate my point.
 
 There's a lot of logical flaws with this episode, too. Why did they show Leela's parents at the end of act 1 rather than save it for later? (and I wasn't convinced by the answer they gave on the commentary, to be honest) Why do they all of a sudden need a balloon to get back to the surface? Why couldn't Leela just find another manhole instead of taking the huge risk of diving into the waters? How come no-one on Earth can translate the alien language even though it was on a Slurm advertisement? And what possible basis does Leela have for claiming that the hooded figures killed her parents? I'm usually loathe to pick holes in these episodes but there are just so many more ways this episode could've been better that it just irritates me.

 That said, I loved the end montage: that was in fact the closest a Futurama episode has come to inducing tears for me. There's a lot of good animation in this one as well - the birds eye 3D shot zooming down to the sewer, the sewer world and, of course, the disgusting Macy's balloon. 

 So whilst they had planned the main premise of this episode for a good while, I wonder whether it was really a good idea to have Kristin Gore write it, considering how average it turned out. 
 

[Reply #198 on:]

Am I the only person on this board who did not like this episode? It wasn't funny, I didn't think it was emotional like "Time Keeps on Slippin'" or "Fryrish", although I will give you that it was well directed, but so is every episode! The camera angles and lighting were good, but that doesn't mask the slooooooow story, the opertunities for good lines that were wasted, and that Leela was all whiny and annoying.

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Er, Shadowstar, look above and below your post and you'll see someone else who wasn't particularly crazy about it.