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dawoodz
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« on: 08-27-2006 15:13 »
« Last Edit on: 09-04-2006 00:00 »

On some of the audio commentaries when some reference to the simpsons is made i.e. when there is an appearance of a simpsons doll there have been comments made that in the Futrama "World" The simpsons is classed as just a TV show and so that is why Matt Greoning didn't want any appearances by the Simpson's characters on Futrama (as actual people).....but I have come across some frame grabs that show Futrama Dolls in the Simpsons(below)......is this a level of inconsistency among the writers of Futrama/The simpsons, or just a dimensional wrap?

Also post sightings of simpsons characters in Futrama


Bart in "Luck of the Fryish"



Bender in The simpsons


Dave B

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« Reply #1 on: 08-27-2006 15:24 »
« Last Edit on: 08-27-2006 15:24 »

I thought about that to, even though Matt made both of the shows though, remember they are 2 completely different shows so any relationship between them is just made up to explain the link really.... So I wouldn't really delve into it if I were you    hmpf
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« Reply #2 on: 08-27-2006 15:44 »

The Simpsons is set in a fictional universe where they just happen to receive all the same channels as us.

Futurama is set in the "real" world, where The Simpsons is a television show.

The fact that if the characters in Futurama watch The Simpsons, they may very well see themselves as toys, merchandise, or couch gags is simply the product of the fictional universe of The Simpsons intersecting with our own reality, in which Futurama is ficticiously set.

Does that clear things up?
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« Reply #3 on: 08-27-2006 15:57 »
« Last Edit on: 08-27-2006 15:57 »

 
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Originally posted by totalnerduk:
The Simpsons is set in a fictional universe where they just happen to receive all the same channels as us.

Futurama is set in the "real" world, where The Simpsons is a television show.

The fact that if the characters in Futurama watch The Simpsons, they may very well see themselves as toys, merchandise, or couch gags is simply the product of the fictional universe of The Simpsons intersecting with our own reality, in which Futurama is ficticiously set.

Does that clear things up?

Its not really a huge subject I think and can be disgarded from a huge explanation like this as it is just 2 different shows... nothing about universes etc   tongue (Just my opinion). Whereas other Futurama subjects such as the different Universes in Farnsworth Parabox for example can and should be explained due to being part of the Futurama show
dawoodz
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« Reply #4 on: 08-27-2006 16:00 »

Kind of, but how would the Simpson's be able to interact with reality when, they believe that they are actual real-life and are unaware that they are a TV show and that a parrelal dimension of reality (where us and Futrama exsist).
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« Reply #5 on: 08-27-2006 16:22 »
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Originally posted by dawoodz:
Kind of, but how would the Simpson's be able to interact with reality when, they believe that they are actual real-life and are unaware that they are a TV show and that a parrelal dimension of reality (where us and Futrama exsist).

My theory is that the FuturamaVerse and the SimpsonsVerse were once the same universe, but split off when God flipped a coin to deside what colour to make humans.

Heads:Pink

Tails: Yellow

In the FuturamaVerse it was heads. In the SimpsonsVerse it was tails. Further changes occured, in Simpverse Mulder and Scully are real people as is Jay Sherman. Perhaps this universe is a TV show in the FuturamaVerse.

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totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #6 on: 08-27-2006 17:12 »

-sigh-

Matt Groening stated in a TV interview prior to the launch of Futurama in the UK that The Simpsons populate an alternate reality.

Futurama, on the other hand, he says is taking place in this reality a thousand years forward.

Matt stated that sometimes the two realities would intersect, meaning that The Simpsons would have a presence in Futurama (it is a TV show for them, just as much as it is a TV show for us), and vice versa.

Therefore, "Dave B" (if that is your real username), you have chosen to disregard the "official" explanation.

I'm outta this thread. Too many Yardsticks, including Yardstick.
Yardstick2006

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« Reply #7 on: 08-27-2006 20:36 »

Stop flaming.
dawoodz
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« Reply #8 on: 08-28-2006 06:10 »

Thanks totalnerduk that makes much more sense. Is that the only time that Greoning has ever mentioned the "realities" or the simpsons and Futrama, because I think it will stump alot of people.
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« Reply #9 on: 08-28-2006 07:22 »
« Last Edit on: 08-28-2006 07:22 »

'Totalnerduk'? Odd, I always thought it was 'Totalturduk'... Hmm... Incidentally, I believe this thread already exists. Anywho, in the meanwhile...

Look closely at the medal on Bender's sash...



Or this.., one of my favorites...



And of course...



dawoodz
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« Reply #10 on: 08-28-2006 07:26 »

 
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Originally posted by Xanfor:
I believe this thread already exists.

That thread is for refrences of the simpsons in Futurama, this thread is trying to establish the realitites of The simpsons and Futrama, although that has pretty much been done. Nice spot though Xanfor, you have great eyes  eek
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« Reply #11 on: 08-28-2006 07:31 »
« Last Edit on: 08-28-2006 07:31 »

Oops, sorry if I missed that!

Anywhat, perhaps these three links may help?

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dawoodz
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« Reply #12 on: 08-28-2006 08:11 »

Thanks Xanfor I don't understand what the link between Futurama and The simpsons in the second frame grab you posted earlier  confused
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« Reply #13 on: 08-28-2006 08:22 »

Oops, I'm all discombobulated today.

It says "David 'Watch Futurama' Cohen".  wink

dawoodz
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« Reply #14 on: 08-28-2006 08:30 »

Wow, I swear it didn't say that earlier. It pays to advertise.  smile
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« Reply #15 on: 08-28-2006 11:22 »

That 'David Watch Futurama Cohen' grab is from the Treehouse of Horror prior to the Futurama release.

And they talk about the relationship between the Simpsons universe and the Futurama universe on the DVD commentary for Mars University (I think) as well.
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« Reply #16 on: 08-29-2006 11:50 »

This is pointless. Listen the only reason simpson dolls and the other simpson stuff is in the futurama world and vis versa is because groening is advertising his shows. and the simpson world i snot supossed to be fictoinal.
dawoodz
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« Reply #17 on: 08-29-2006 11:55 »

 
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Originally posted by magerdoomer_1:
... The simpson world is not supossed to be fictoinal.

In your proffesional opinion.

It is mentioned in the audio-commentaries by Groening (or maybe David Cohen) that the simpsons IS fictional and that Futurama is meant to be reality.....I agree that some appearences may be cleverly used as an advertisement stunt but.....what your saying about the Simpsons is not true. It's hard to take if you like the simpsons more than Futurama but I'm afraid, it's true......*over and out (of this thread that is)*

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« Reply #18 on: 08-29-2006 15:46 »
« Last Edit on: 08-29-2006 15:46 »

In "futurama-Simpsons infinitely secret crossover crisis" the Proffesor said that the barriers between the real and fictional world have become thinner...
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« Reply #19 on: 08-30-2006 07:58 »

Hee hee! If 'The Simpsons' is real, and 'Futurama' is fictional, then why are the people in 'The Simpsons' yellow and the people in 'Futurama' properly colored?

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« Reply #20 on: 08-30-2006 11:58 »

 
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Originally posted by Arockalypse:
In "futurama-Simpsons infinitely secret crossover crisis" the Proffesor said that the barriers between the real and fictional world have become thinner...
Comics are canon for neither Simpsons, nor Futurama.
dawoodz
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« Reply #21 on: 08-30-2006 13:25 »

 
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Originally posted by Xanfor:
Hee hee! If 'The Simpsons' is real, and 'Futurama' is fictional, then why are the people in 'The Simpsons' yellow and the people in 'Futurama' properly colored?


Thats a good sensible way of looking at things, maybe when the simpsons was made there wasn't a suitable shade of pink available.....who knows  big grin
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« Reply #22 on: 09-02-2006 16:57 »

 
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Originally posted by totalnerduk:
-sigh-

Matt Groening stated in a TV interview prior to the launch of Futurama in the UK that The Simpsons populate an alternate reality.

Futurama, on the other hand, he says is taking place in this reality a thousand years forward.

Matt stated that sometimes the two realities would intersect, meaning that The Simpsons would have a presence in Futurama (it is a TV show for them, just as much as it is a TV show for us), and vice versa.

Therefore, "Dave B" (if that is your real username), you have chosen to disregard the "official" explanation.

I'm outta this thread. Too many Yardsticks, including Yardstick.

It is and no I'm not disregarding anything just don't think its a big factor that needs to be delved into much (Sorry if that shakes you off your pedostal  roll eyes, too many Yardsticks.... pfff)

Also Xanfor The Simpsons isn't supposed to be real it is apparantely in another alternate reality so they can have yellow skin and Futurama is supposed to be real with there normal skin colour but who really minds about this... *looks over to totalnerduk*
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« Reply #23 on: 09-03-2006 08:12 »
« Last Edit on: 09-04-2006 00:00 by totalnerduk »

   
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Originally posted by Dave B:
 It is and no I'm not disregarding anything just don't think its a big factor that needs to be delved into much (Sorry if that shakes you off your pedostal     roll eyes, too many Yardsticks.... pfff)

Also Xanfor The Simpsons isn't supposed to be real it is apparantely in another alternate reality so they can have yellow skin and Futurama is supposed to be real with there normal skin colour but who really minds about this... *looks over to totalnerduk*

Get off your high horse. You're the one who argued, obviously you care about it. I  replied to you because if you cared about it enough to disagree with what I said, I thought that perhaps you would appreciate being in posession of all the salient facts.

Also, what bloody pedestal? I'm down in the PEEL gutter here.

   
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no I'm not disregarding anything just don't think its a big factor that needs to be delved into much

*If you don't think that it's a big factor, why bother to quibble? Why bother to even post in this thread? If you're not disregarding the things that I have pointed out to you, then what the hell are you doing? You sure don't seem to be taking notes, mister.

   
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    roll eyes, too many Yardsticks....
That's what I said. Perhaps you missed the point. What I was saying with that was that there were too many people (ie; you and Yardstick) so convinced of their own superior judgement that you were measuring everything said against your own private theories, despite the fact that I have been through the DVD commentaries and posted what would appear to be the closest thing to an official explanation that this board is likely to get.

Congratulations, Dave. From now on, whenever I see one of your posts, no matter how hard I try, I'm going to be unable to approach it without the preconceived notion that you're completely wrong, and unable to be right on the rightenest day of your life if you had an electrified fooling machine that fooled folks into feeling that you were right.

I decided originally not to reply again to this thread. I unmade that decision for one reason: Your high-handed stupidity filled me with so much rage that I had to vent it somewhere. I shan't be making further responses. Just know that whatever you say next (and hereonafter) will be wrong in my eyes, and the eyes of anybody with a shred of logical reasoning.

You utter cabbage.

Edit: I can field this one, too:
 
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Originally posted by Xanfor:
Hee hee! If 'The Simpsons' is real, and 'Futurama' is fictional, then why are the people in 'The Simpsons' yellow and the people in 'Futurama' properly colored?

When the Simpsons was first produced, it was on a tight budget, and they had to cut corners to save money. In the same TV interview I have referenced above, Matt says that yellow ink was cheaper than pink, and since skin-tone is one of the most frequently used colours in each frame, they decided to use yellow skin as a cost-saver. They never bothered to change it, because people got used to the look.

Now I'm out of here.

*Further Edit: You've already stated that you are disregarding this. Read your own posts. I'm not accusing you of anything, you've bloody well admitted it.


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« Reply #24 on: 09-04-2006 08:36 »

I'm stealin' those stars again.  tongue

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« Reply #25 on: 09-04-2006 09:02 »
« Last Edit on: 09-04-2006 09:02 »

Originally posted by totalnerduk
I'm going to be unable to approach it without the preconceived notion that you're completely wrong,

Your high-handed stupidity

Just know that whatever you say next (and hereonafter) will be wrong in my eyes, and the eyes of anybody with a shred of logical reasoning.


So you're not on a pedestal then    roll eyes
And plus I don't mind if you don't reply to this as the last thing I would want to do is impress someone that is far to up their own behind to say that if you will find my posts to be wrong, that any other person who see's it with any logical reasoning must think so too, ha you really must feel highly of yourself despite your deny's of this claim...

To also add I never started any of this, just simply gave my opinion that I don't find it that important and taking offence you accused me of disregarding something from the show, godd...

Please do go ahead and post in another thread so I am free of your belittling from your pedestal calling me stupid and finding all of my posts from now on to be wrong, ha!    laff    no no


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« Reply #26 on: 09-04-2006 18:00 »

 
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Originally posted by totalnerduk:
-sigh-

Matt Groening stated in a TV interview prior to the launch of Futurama in the UK that The Simpsons populate an alternate reality.

Futurama, on the other hand, he says is taking place in this reality a thousand years forward.

Matt stated that sometimes the two realities would intersect, meaning that The Simpsons would have a presence in Futurama (it is a TV show for them, just as much as it is a TV show for us), and vice versa.

Therefore, "Dave B" (if that is your real username), you have chosen to disregard the "official" explanation.

I'm outta this thread. Too many Yardsticks, including Yardstick.

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