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Nixorbo

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« Reply #400 on: 03-14-2002 23:30 »

Once Futurama is off the air, I will have absolutely no reason to watch prime-time FOX at all.
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« Reply #401 on: 03-14-2002 23:38 »

You said it, Nixorbo. My FOX channel leaves my channel list the same time "Futurama" leaves FOX. There are two choices when you love a FOX show nowadays: (1) watch it die quickly, or (2) watch it die as slowly and painfully as FOXecutives can make it. No more.
Australian Guy

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« Reply #402 on: 03-15-2002 22:10 »
« Last Edit on: 03-15-2002 22:10 »

 
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Originally posted by totalnerduk:
Re: Channel 4

In Australia, the best thing you guys can do is, it would appear, suggest to Channel 7 that they sell the rights to some other station, whilst at the same time tell other stations that Futurama is what will line their pockets with gold for the next four years (4 seasons).

No channel in australia would pick up futurama. Best case scenario it gets on late night channel 9, with ALL the other sci- fi
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« Reply #403 on: 03-15-2002 22:52 »

Well, in all actuality, it doesn't matter. Fox will survive so long as someone watches their channel. As for Futurama, it will always go on in my head. I refuse to let it die. So go ahead Fox, cancel your best animated series. I may not understand what it takes to run a network, but you make it look like 4 year olds can do it. Nothing's worth watching on the channel anymore. I'm sorry if this sounds like rambling, I've just had a tiring day
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« Reply #404 on: 03-16-2002 23:54 »

Four-year-olds would run the network better.
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« Reply #405 on: 03-17-2002 00:06 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
Four-year-olds would run the network better.

Yeah, you're right


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« Reply #406 on: 03-19-2002 07:45 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
Four-year-olds would run the network better.

i'll give you a cookie if you put futurama back for some more seasons...


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You were right Fry.
From now on I知 going to bend what I want, when I want, who I want!
I知 unstoppable!
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« Reply #407 on: 03-19-2002 07:48 »

I thought that 4 year olds WERE running Fox!  tongue
JoJo

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« Reply #408 on: 03-19-2002 08:45 »

nope, fox is not runned 4 year olds.
there 5 year olds.
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You were right Fry.
From now on I知 going to bend what I want, when I want, who I want!
I知 unstoppable!
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« Reply #409 on: 03-19-2002 08:54 »

You're BOTH WRONG!!!  It's monkeys that run the FOX network.  And they're not as Guenter smart monkeys either! 
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« Reply #410 on: 03-19-2002 09:13 »
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that could be true , come on, even 5 year olds know that 'malcolm in the middle' and 'that 80's show' are stupid.
well, i've changed my opinion.
monkeys run fox
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You were right Fry.
From now on I知 going to bend what I want, when I want, who I want!
I知 unstoppable!
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« Reply #411 on: 03-19-2002 10:41 »

They're not monkeys! They're foxes. And they should be hunted down each and every one of them.
JoJo

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« Reply #412 on: 03-19-2002 10:50 »
« Last Edit on: 03-19-2002 10:50 »

okey, now there are three possible things to say.
1)the fox hunt is now officially opened!!!

2)the monkey hunt is now officially opened!!!

3)let's just get rid of the fox executives , take over fox and air futurama all day!!!

i've decided my choice...
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From now on I知 going to bend what I want, when I want, who I want!
I知 unstoppable!
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« Reply #413 on: 05-06-2002 14:50 »

I feel sorry for you Americans. (Yes, I'm still here). Here in the UK, Sky Onehasn't even finished showing Season 3, let alone Season 4. We've still got about another year before we can start worrying about things like this, and by the time that happens, they'll have thought of something, or invented something new.

I think the reason Futurama has not kicked off as well as The Simpsons is because Futurama IS The Simpsons, it's just set 1000 years in the future. (hence the name) Enjoyable, yes, but it's not offering hardcore fans of The Simpsons anything new.
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« Reply #414 on: 05-06-2002 14:55 »

 
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Originally posted by Kif:
I feel sorry for you Americans. (Yes, I'm still here). Here in the UK, Sky Onehasn't even finished showing Season 3, let alone Season 4.

Neither has America, they still have "The Route Of All Evil" before Season 3 is done.

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« Reply #415 on: 05-06-2002 17:20 »

Who actually watches Temptation Island. Ive never watched the show but it seems that a couple go to an island with other people and are offered money not to cheat for a month or something. I dont cheat on my g/f within a month and i dont even get paid. The whole thing is set up and ridiculous. Big Brother aswell. Cant that show die a long drawn out painful death where a pyromaniac goes on the show and burns down the house and then someone shoves a sock in Denise VanOuten's mouth and then someone shoots the tosser who can't speak who does the voice overs. "Day fir-y aig-t. Criag gegs lesbiun loost fuur tha uogle gur-l".

BTW does FOX have the rights to Big Brother in the US?
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« Reply #416 on: 05-06-2002 21:01 »

 
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Originally posted by Kif:
Futurama IS The Simpsons

::Crucifies Kif::

I have a thousand years of power.
"NOOOOO HE WAS MY BROTHER!" and then got tired and slept.


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« Reply #417 on: 05-06-2002 21:16 »

We all know what we have to do: Kill all FOX executives. Or we can make our own channel and buy the rights to futurama.
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« Reply #418 on: 05-06-2002 22:11 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
 ::Crucifies Kif::



/me blougens Kif with a big wooden club.

the simpsons is nothing like Futurama!
The simpsons can't possibly compare to the Greatness of Futurama! so  tongue

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« Reply #419 on: 05-06-2002 23:40 »

Ah, I don't know if I'd go that far.  Simpsons has a much, how we say, greater legacy.  I'd take classic Simpsons over Futurama in a heartbeat.  But to say that Futurama is exactly like the Simpsons, only in space, is a load of bullcrap propogated by ignorant fools who don't understand/have watched an episode.  Two completely different types of shows.
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« Reply #420 on: 05-06-2002 23:45 »

Futurama is the best thing going right now. I don't know if Simpsons was ever much better than it (rose tinted glasses), but it isn't now. So Futurama is the best thing on the air. Fox has abused it miserably though, and no show could have survived that.
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« Reply #421 on: 05-07-2002 00:16 »

 
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Originally posted by Kif:
I think the reason Futurama has not kicked off as well as The Simpsons is because Futurama IS The Simpsons, it's just set 1000 years in the future. (hence the name) Enjoyable, yes, but it's not offering hardcore fans of The Simpsons anything new.

I still think its mainly due to Futurama's crap timeslot and lack of Fox support.  I think that the Futurama is quite different than The Simpsons.  I just don't think many (Simpsons Fans) give it a chance.
Erdrik

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« Reply #422 on: 05-07-2002 00:32 »

Classic Simpsons was good. Damn good infact.
But IMHO it doesn't hold a flicker against Futurama.
Futurama is just so much deeper, funnier, and sweeter. And all at the same time! So  tongue

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Nixorbo

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« Reply #423 on: 05-07-2002 00:35 »
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And I disagree.  So   tongue   tongue

And there's no possible way to parody Planet of the Apes better than "Stop the Planet of the Apes, I Want to Get Off," starring Troy McClure as The Human.  I say this because I was just listening to it on winAMP.
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« Reply #424 on: 05-07-2002 00:50 »

I don't care if you dis-agree
So  tongue  tongue  tongue

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« Reply #425 on: 05-07-2002 00:57 »

Aaaand I think this is as good a time as any to end this little cycle we've started.

( :px4)
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« Reply #426 on: 05-07-2002 01:02 »

I suppose that would be a good idea...

...
But it's just so tempting!!!
So  tongue  tongue  tongue  tongue  tongue

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« Reply #427 on: 05-07-2002 01:51 »

 
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Originally posted by Kif:

I think the reason Futurama has not kicked off as well as The Simpsons is because Futurama IS The Simpsons, it's just set 1000 years in the future. (hence the name) Enjoyable, yes, but it's not offering hardcore fans of The Simpsons anything new.

...

I am speechless. That is the single stupidest thing I've read all week. Congratulations.
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« Reply #428 on: 05-07-2002 04:43 »

I read something stupider. An email from FOX saying that there will be new episodes to form a fifth season, presumably the eps that they cut from other seasons. Zidiots.
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« Reply #429 on: 05-07-2002 16:28 »
« Last Edit on: 05-07-2002 16:28 »

 
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Originally posted by Erdrik:
Classic Simpsons was good. Damn good infact.
But IMHO it doesn't hold a flicker against Futurama.
Futurama is just so much deeper, funnier, and sweeter. And all at the same time! So    tongue

I do agree, I've  has this argument before, many times. Futurama is the best animated program ever in my opinion, for the points you stated, and the visuals, character dedevelopment, originality, continuity, robots and the fact that episodes can be totally different with different locations and species.
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« Reply #430 on: 05-07-2002 16:35 »

 
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
  I do agree, I've  has this argument before, many times. Futurama is the best animated program ever in my opinion, for the points you stated, and the visuals, character dedevelopment, originality, continuity, robots and the fact that episodes can be totally different with different locations and species.

Yay!  big grin especially the different locations and species! They won't run out of ideas for places to go becuase they can always just add a galaxy full of new aliens and planets to deliver to  big grin Yay! the Infinite reaches of space and time rock! lol  laff

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« Reply #431 on: 05-08-2002 13:48 »

I had a feeling what ever I say sparks controversy. But look at the similarites!

They both have a dumb person in who likes food (Homer & Fry)

They both have evil people that are extremely old (Mr Burns & Mom)

They both make episodes which don't make any sense (SupercalifragilisticexpialiD'OHcious & Godfellas)

They both have weird looking women in. (Leela and Marge)

They are both set in America (OK, that one's crap)

But The Simpsons is better than Futurama. (I smell more damn controversy). That's why those pathetic FOX networkers want you all to suffer.
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« Reply #432 on: 05-08-2002 14:10 »

 
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Originally posted by Kif:
I had a feeling what ever I say sparks controversy. But look at the similarites!
But look at the differences!!!!
 
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They both have a dumb person in who likes food (Homer & Fry)
Homer: Dumb, Clumsy moronic oaf. His only moments of Glory are pure luck.

Fry: Clumsy? yes. Moronic? yes. BUT Fry isn't always a moron! his moments of glory actualy show rational thought, caring, and sense.
 
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They both have weird looking women in. (Leela and Marge)
How is Marge weird looking?
And Leela's a Mutant! She's suppose to have a 'unique feature'.
 
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They are both set in America (OK, that one's crap)
yes. yes it is.
 
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But The Simpsons is better than Futurama.
I think not.

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« Reply #433 on: 05-08-2002 14:52 »

 
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Originally posted by Kif:
I had a feeling what ever I say sparks controversy. But look at the similarites!

They both have a dumb person in who likes food (Homer & Fry)

They both make episodes which don't make any sense (SupercalifragilisticexpialiD'OHcious & Godfellas)

They both have weird looking women in. (Leela and Marge)

But The Simpsons is better than Futurama. (I smell more damn controversy). That's why those pathetic FOX networkers want you all to suffer.

No offence, but those comparisons suck. Fry isn't anything like Homer, he may be a little stupid, but he does intelligent things as well, unlike Homer. What do you mean "Godfellas" doesn't make sense? Sure a lot of it wasn't totally realistic, but that wasn't the point, it had a message and is far deeper than your average Simpsons episode. Maybe Leela doesn't look average, but she's a hell of a lot sexier than Marge. On the grounds you gave, no way is The Simpsons better than Futurama. In my opinion Futurama is much better anyway.
Erdrik

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« Reply #434 on: 05-08-2002 14:59 »

 
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
 No offence, but those comparisons suck. Fry isn't anything like Homer, he may be a little stupid, but he does intelligent things as well, unlike Homer. What do you mean "Godfellas" doesn't make sense? Sure a lot of it wasn't totally realistic, but that wasn't the point, it had a message and is far deeper than your average Simpsons episode. Maybe Leela doesn't look average, but she's a hell of a lot sexier than Marge. On the grounds you gave, no way is The Simpsons better than Futurama. In my opinion Futurama is much better anyway.

BooYA! So  tongue at Kif!

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« Reply #435 on: 05-09-2002 00:51 »

I'm looking at each of those so-called comparisons, and they're so incredibly vague, they could apply to any show on television.
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« Reply #436 on: 05-09-2002 05:21 »

 
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Originally posted by Kif:
I think the reason Futurama has not kicked off as well as The Simpsons is because Futurama IS The Simpsons, it's just set 1000 years in the future. (hence the name) Enjoyable, yes, but it's not offering hardcore fans of The Simpsons anything new.

Leaving aside the fact that Futurama is one of the most innovative cartoons in recent history, why should it offer hardcore fans of The Simpsons anything new to be succesfull? No matter what Matt & Co. do to humour the hardcore fans of The Simpsons, they'd never succeed, becuase these people are hardcore The Simpsons fans.

Saying that Futurama need to humour the hardcore Simpsons fans is the same as saying ST:TNG should please the ST:TOS fans to be succesful. They didn't, neither did DS9, and look what marvelous shows they turned out to be. Voyager tried (IMO), and look what crap that turned out to be.

If you're trying to humour a certain part of the audience in order to make your show succesful, you've taken the first steps down the road named "Good Intentions", and we all now where that leads. Right?

To bring up another ST reference (boy, I'm really showing my nerdy side now  big grin): I recently read a book about the making of ST:TNG. Here Roddenberry said: 
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Originally said by Gene Roddenberry:
"While I listen to the audience, one of the secrets of whatever success I've amounted to was that I never make shows for the audience. I listen to good advice, but the only person I make shows for is myself. I love any help you can give me, but I'll be damned if I'll make a show for you! I make it for myself, and if you happen to like it, I'm delighted that you do, and great; we've got the best of both possible worlds. Writers and producers and directors and so on that create a show for specific audiences do schlock work. They should do selfish work, proudly selfish work, and that happens to be true about painter and sculptors, too.

Sounds to me that Matt use the Roddenberry way of doing shows. If you do shows that are aimed at specific audiences, or make shows based on "market research" you end up with crap like "World's Blankiest Blank" or drivel like "Survivor" or "Temptation Island".

The reason Futurama haven't been as gigantic a succes as the Simpsons, is mainly because it never was allowed to gain a devoted following. Beating a dead horse again, but constant pre-empting, ridiculus timeslots, less-than-zero advertising is some of the main reasons. How can you expect a show to hit it big if you don't allow people to see it. FOX have a potential goldmine in their hands,and they treat it like something they would be embarrased to step in on the street.

Matt has the show he always wanted to do. He basically made it for himself, when FOX execs wanted to poke ariund with it, and alter things to suit specific audeinces he more or less threw them out. When the show didn't turn out to be, what they had pictured, they where somehow insulted, and acted in the most childish of ways. But the show was a success. Viewers tuned in, and, from what I've been told, the kind of viewers advertisers pays big bucks to reach. What went wrong, we all know that.

Matt & Co did a fantastic job, I wish more people had the integrity to make shows by "The Roddenberry Formula", and not following "market research".

Okay, gotta pull the plug here, before my ranting turns into complete inane babble.

PS: I think my sig could be put to good use in a Matt/FOX Execs arguement about Futurama.

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« Reply #437 on: 05-09-2002 06:34 »

I was hoping when Simpsons went off the air, I'd have something of silmilar/beyond quality to watch, and now I won't! [cries]
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« Reply #438 on: 05-09-2002 08:54 »

Yeah!.. I agree with Teral.

so many damn retards in this world... I think I'll just call them Fox execs from now on. Kif, Your a Fox Exec.  tongue

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« Reply #439 on: 05-09-2002 12:34 »

Yeah Kif, those comparisons are really vague. You could include those for any random show, like say Cheers.

Both have dumb guys who like to drink beer(Homer and Woody)

Both are set in america

Both have bartenders

Both have annoying psychologists(Marvin Monroe and Frasier)

Both have weird looking women(Marge and Rhea Pearlman)
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