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AstroZombie

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« on: 01-15-2002 08:41 »

I've just read the update on CGEF for today,

Regarding the fact that there has been no renewal for Futurama season 5 as yet, and it was renewed on Jan 5 last year for season 4.

I'm concerned to say the least,

If anyone has got more news on this please, please, please let me and the rest of us Futurama fans know, even if it is only to tell us to get our Fox Exec hunting gear out.

  confused   confused
wu_konguk

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« Reply #1 on: 01-15-2002 08:49 »

Wait are you implying series 4 may be it please say this is not so.  confused   cry
AstroZombie

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« Reply #2 on: 01-15-2002 08:53 »

I dunno, I hope not.  frown
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« Reply #3 on: 01-15-2002 09:13 »

I got the info about "no renewal yet" from David X two days ago. I'll sure tell here and on cgef if/when i hear otherwise.
jasonlevine

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« Reply #4 on: 01-15-2002 09:35 »

Hey all,

I hope this is just FOX dragging their heals on the matter and not a plot of theirs, but I think I see their insideous plan.  For some reason their network execs are against any real quality on FOX.  They stick Futurama in an awful time slot.  They don't air new eps.  They preempt it for football.  And on the one weekend when a new ep wouldn't be preempted, they toss in a couple of Simpsons repeats so they can air "The Chamber."  I'm quite fearful that they'll cancel it for "performing poorly."  (Even though I'd say it's performed wonderfully given what they've put it through.)  Here's hoping that we get a renewal notice soon.  If not, we can try to organize a grass-roots movement to bring back Futurama.  I know I'd be more than happy to help keep this wonderful program on the air.  (Right now Futurama is the only FOX show that I watch.  If they cancel that, I won't have any reason to tune into Fox.)

-Jason Levine
Juliet

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« Reply #5 on: 01-15-2002 09:41 »

I don't understand this  confused

what it's all about?

LordKev

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« Reply #6 on: 01-15-2002 10:19 »

What is the address to petition to?
homerjaysimpson

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« Reply #7 on: 01-15-2002 11:06 »
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If this is true it will join the ever growing number of good cartoon shows that last 4 seasons or less that some network a$$hole f**ked up because of all or one of 1.bad time slot or 2.adding a new person on.
Bendo

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« Reply #8 on: 01-15-2002 11:43 »

Is it possible that there is such a back log of shows that it could carry over into season 5 without ordering any more? In the interview on CGEF David X. Cohen had said there was a good back log of shows held over from season 3, plus the episodes from season 4 that they did plus others that were in development. I would assume that Fox had already ordered and paid for those episodes thereby giving them rights to show them thus making it unnecessary to renew for season 5 since they would already either have the episodes already or they would already be in development under a current contract.
Maybe it is wishfull thinkgin on my part but I hope we get a season 5 and better treatment from Fox on this in the future.
RM
FilthyCrab

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« Reply #9 on: 01-15-2002 12:17 »

I think that FOX is sitting on more than enough eps to fill this year and next, especially the way they dole out one ep / month.  They don't want to lay out production money for new work when they've already got such a a huge inventory.  If ratings remain good, FOX may just order a fifth production season later (hoping that the production team hasn't all gone off to "new challenges" by then) or they may just let Futurama die an ignoble death.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #10 on: 01-15-2002 13:51 »
« Last Edit on: 01-15-2002 13:51 »

I agree with Bendo and FilthyCrab, maybe season 5 will be renewed, but not until this time next year because of the amount of unaired episodes.

If however season 4 is the last, then I hope I'm right in saying that every PEEL member will club together and try there hardest to get it back.
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If I remember correctly, Sarge said that we will not know if there will be a renewal for season 5 until March. As an animator he will find out if he needs to continue or not in March, when work on season 5 will begin if it's given the go ahead.
AstroZombie

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« Reply #11 on: 01-15-2002 14:03 »

Well here's hoping it is renewed, I really don't want to have to kill anyone.

Well maybe just one or two  tongue
Teral

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« Reply #12 on: 01-15-2002 21:39 »
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Damn stupid FOX. What's their plan? To draw out the 4ACV episodes to last the next 3-4 years, or what? At the rate they're going right now, that's not unlikely.

Oh, well. I just think they're stalling for a while, to see how the episodes are performing. Hopefully when the football-season is over they'll see the light, and renew for a 5th season.

I hope, 'cause I would really hate to make a trip to the States just to go on a rampage in a TV network HQ.

Don't confuse not caring with not knowing!
bankrupt

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« Reply #13 on: 01-15-2002 22:25 »

Hi all.  Doesn't a show have to run a certain number of years before it can be run in syndication?  Hopefully it's more than 4 years (for some reason 6 is popping into my head)and FOX will buy more seasons to meet this requirement.  Of course I could be crazy, and FOX will just use the piled up episodes they have to string the show along.

I hate my first post here to be negative, but FOX can bite me for their treatment of Futurama.

Teral

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« Reply #14 on: 01-15-2002 22:38 »

Hi bankrupt. Welcome to PEEL. I hope you'll enjoy it here.  big grin

I don't think it's the number of seasons, but the number of episodes that determines whether it can be run in syndication. But maybe some of the American PEEL'ers can clear this up.

Don't worry about attacking FOX. By doing that here, you're preaching to the choir.  wink
Just Chris

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« Reply #15 on: 01-15-2002 22:48 »

I think syndication can happen once 100 episodes have aired, either all new or a combo of new and old ones placed in the 'new' time slot.

Futurama is created by Matt Groening, not Fox. But I think that although Fox bought Futurama, they don't like the the show that much. They only want to promote what looks good to THEM. I compare it to the way many radio stations de-evolved to play nothing but pop and mainstream rock.
jasonlevine

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« Reply #16 on: 01-15-2002 23:19 »

 
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Originally posted by Just Chris:
Futurama is created by Matt Groening, not Fox. But I think that although Fox bought Futurama, they don't like the the show that much. They only want to promote what looks good to THEM. I compare it to the way many radio stations de-evolved to play nothing but pop and mainstream rock.

Well, if the Fox execs think that "The Chamber" and "Temptation Island" are quality shows then no wonder Futurama's getting such poor treatment.  Maybe if someone smacked one of the execs upside the head, they'd be able to tell quality from junk.  (Hey smacking TVs can help fix them sometimes.  big grin)  I'd ask who wanted to volunteer, but I'm afraid the line would be too long.   wink
meisterPOOP

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« Reply #17 on: 01-15-2002 23:31 »

I like Just Chris' "Throw A Brick A The TV" concept.
Sarge

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« Reply #18 on: 01-16-2002 00:12 »

I talked to the producer at Rough Draft the other day & she said it wasn't picked up yet, but it's still in the works.
Javier Lopez

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« Reply #19 on: 01-16-2002 03:14 »

 
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Originally posted by jasonlevine:I'd ask who wanted to volunteer, but I'm afraid the line would be too long.    wink

Well, if you need someone from outside USA that can`t be pursuited by the FBI you can count with we Europeans, but as you said ,Asians, Australians, South Americans, Canadians, etc ,etc also would join...
  big grin

Well, at least here the natural Justice helps Futurama sometimes, i mean, many times Antena3 has cancelled Futurama to air some very very stupid show, but in one or two months the show sinks and they air Futurama again... Futurama always back, always.
FilthyCrab

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« Reply #20 on: 01-16-2002 13:27 »

 
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Originally posted by Sarge:
I talked to the producer at Rough Draft the other day & she said it wasn't picked up yet, but it's still in the works.


We're keeping our fingers crossed, Sarge (I'd hate to see you out of work).

It's all about the ratings folks.  By leaving Futurama in a cr@p timeslot they can show that it has poor ratings and try to negotiate cheaper rates for it.  At the same time, they can support "hot genre" shows like the chamber or temptation island because they will have a large audience by vertue of the type of show they are (I personally can't stand either genre).

Also by dragging out the airing of new eps FOX gets more weeks out of their original (probably fixed) purchace cost for production.  They are cutting corners to save $.

Tell yer mom I said "Hi!"
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #21 on: 01-16-2002 14:04 »

I REALLY want Futurama to continue being made, I would be so depressed if it stopped.

Just a quik question, Just Chris said that 100 episodes need to be made before it can be syndicated, does anyone know how many there are in total at the moment including all of the episodes that are still in production?
McGrady

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« Reply #22 on: 01-16-2002 14:43 »

Around 71, if season 4 is like season 2 and 3 (19 each).  Like 45-50 have been shown.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #23 on: 01-16-2002 15:13 »

 
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Originally posted by McGrady:
Around 71, if season 4 is like season 2 and 3 (19 each).  Like 45-50 have been shown.

Crud, that means we need two more seasons before it can be syndicated and I doubt Fox will let it get that far mad
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« Reply #24 on: 01-16-2002 15:50 »

I think it's 73 for now and syndication can start with 90, so one season might do, but I'm not *all* that pessimistic that Futurama will go on multiple seasons
AstroZombie

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« Reply #25 on: 01-16-2002 16:12 »

Huh? Marc, so are you saying it will go on for multple seasons?, or have I got my head on backwards. Cos the last line of you post confused the hell out of me
 
jasonlevine

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« Reply #26 on: 01-16-2002 16:22 »

 
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Originally posted by [-mArc-]:
I think it's 73 for now and syndication can start with 90, so one season might do, but I'm not *all* that pessimistic that Futurama will go on multiple seasons

I just realized something.  Comedy Central picked up Duckman and The Critic even though they only had 70 and 23 episodes respectively.  (In The Critic's case, 13 on ABC, 10 on Fox.)  Perhaps, should the worst happen, Comedy Central could pick up Futurama. (Maybe even do a South Park/Duckman/Futurama/The Critic animation block.)  Of course, it wouldn't be as good as new eps and I'll still be hopping mad at Fox if they can Futurama, but it'll be some consolation.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #27 on: 01-16-2002 16:25 »

But would Comedy Central be able to afford Futurama? I might be wrong but I think that Futurama is probably quite expensive because of the CGI and good animation, not to mention the staff.
jasonlevine

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« Reply #28 on: 01-16-2002 16:42 »

 
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
But would Comedy Central be able to afford Futurama? I might be wrong but I think that Futurama is probably quite expensive because of the CGI and good animation, not to mention the staff.

Well, hopefully we won't have to find out.  (At least not for quite some time.)

McGrady

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« Reply #29 on: 01-17-2002 12:35 »

Well, as of right now, fox hasn't "officially" renewed any shows, to my knowledge.  It did do a contract with the simpsons for a few extra years, but that was just the right to guarantee the show for several more years.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #30 on: 01-17-2002 13:49 »

They better renew becuase I can't be held responsible for my actions if they don't.
The Baz

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« Reply #31 on: 01-17-2002 16:30 »

 frown I remember they waited last year to renew and it made me so stressed.  This is even worse.  It is almost February.   I think FOX might try to pull ou the midseason replacement card, ie. Family Guy  cry
DeckardSmith

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« Reply #32 on: 01-18-2002 01:22 »

Well, one good thing on our side is the fact that Matt Groening loves Futurama...I've even read where he was talking about a Futurama film or two. God willing, we'll get a few more years...
Shadowstar

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« Reply #33 on: 01-18-2002 17:17 »

If Futurama gets a fifth season, it will probably be its last. Damn FOX!!! DAMN IT ALL TO HELL!!!!
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #34 on: 01-18-2002 17:36 »

A fifth season is better than no more at all.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #35 on: 01-18-2002 17:47 »

If it gets a fifth season, then syndication will be an option, and if it gets cancelled, then we'll carbomb Fox HQ!
Dr_Dave

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« Reply #36 on: 01-19-2002 07:28 »

If you want to sound off to FOX in writing on this subject, here's a list of the grand pooh-bahs at FOX:

 http://www.newscorp.com/management/fbc.html   big grin

Good luck!
Kyle

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« Reply #37 on: 01-19-2002 08:00 »

 
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Originally posted by jasonlevine:
 I just realized something.  Comedy Central picked up Duckman and The Critic even though they only had 70 and 23 episodes respectively.  (In The Critic's case, 13 on ABC, 10 on Fox.)  Perhaps, should the worst happen, Comedy Central could pick up Futurama. (Maybe even do a South Park/Duckman/Futurama/The Critic animation block.)  Of course, it wouldn't be as good as new eps and I'll still be hopping mad at Fox if they can Futurama, but it'll be some consolation.

We've already gone over this thing before.
skylight

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« Reply #38 on: 01-19-2002 13:32 »

I just don't understand why they don't show all episodes of the seasons. Is FOX really such a lazy organisation?
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #39 on: 01-19-2002 13:55 »

 
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Originally posted by skylight:
I just don't understand why they don't show all episodes of the seasons. Is FOX really such a lazy organisation?

FOX and organisation don't belong in the same sentance as each other laff
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