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Rhodan

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« on: 05-04-2005 13:17 »
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As you know, new season of "Family Guy" started and some people including DXC mentioned this as the  hope of Futurama in the case of succes. I still dontīmuch belive in that but itīs probably really very last possibility of return.
Personally, itīs sad but I feel that in the case that ttīll fail , I will stick with Simpsons and leave Futurama behind me.
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Andy1234

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« Reply #1 on: 05-04-2005 13:24 »

hopefully they will bring it back.

by the way you had loads of typos.
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #2 on: 05-04-2005 15:36 »

I think that Futurama has a chance currently to come back more then it ever has. I hope that if FOX sees the success that Family Guy produces, they will reconsider renewing Futurama.

Or we could just wait until American Dad gets cancelled and Futurama can take it's place.  tongue
(No seriously, it sucks ass).
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #3 on: 05-04-2005 17:23 »

I agree wit Nasty. We all know that American Dad will be canceled sooner or later,(I say for us all to stop watching it and "find other was to watch it", so it doesn't count towards ratings and it'll get canceled faster.) and if Arrested Devolpment gets the ax(which I hope it doesn't) or if it gets moved to another night, there's two slots open for Futurama coming back. There's one for sure. I will start to watch Family Guy now, since I noticed that showing support to our brother/sister show will be good. Watching Family Guy will show that an uncanceled show can come back and show fan support. I say watch FG and Simpsons, don't watch Am.D. If my idea is right, that is.
j_ohanley

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« Reply #4 on: 05-04-2005 17:28 »
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"Now don't give up yet you crybabies, we still have one proposterously slim hope!"

That's my feeling on the whole thing, except that none of you are crybabies.   hmpf
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #5 on: 05-04-2005 17:37 »

"If something's hopeless, you just gotta hope harder, and cover your ears and go "BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!"

That's my feeling on the whole thing, minus the "hopeless" part, since this is not hopeless yet.
Slackit02

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« Reply #6 on: 05-04-2005 19:39 »

Pssh you totally stole that from my post in the AFF thread  tongue

and its "You cant give up hope just because its hopeless, you gotta hope even more and cover your ears and go blah blah blah...."
GenocidalSmashr

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« Reply #7 on: 05-05-2005 01:27 »

Actually, it probably would be better if both Family guy and American Dad make it. Then it would show FOX that two shows from the same creator can have be s.uccessful simultaneously. Here's hoping.
winna

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« Reply #8 on: 05-05-2005 01:43 »

No, no it wouldn't.  American Dad is getting cancelled, end of story.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #9 on: 05-05-2005 01:51 »
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Yeah....Family Guy doing well might help, but American Dad's influence on it would be nill.  Plus, American Dad doing well could be a serious blow to satire that's actually good (thank god for The Daily Show).  All American Dad can do is hog a perfectly good timeslot that could go to better programming (be it Futurama or something else).

But anyway, I've never truly given up hope.  I still feel like the show has a good shot at getting a movie out if nothing else (regardless of whether or not the recent rumor is true).
Ben

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« Reply #10 on: 05-05-2005 02:01 »

Doesn't Futurama cost a hell of a lot more to produce per episode than Family Guy or The Simpsons? I mean, with all the 3D stuff, it'd have to. Also, I expect Billy West, John DiMaggio and Katey Segal's salaries would be a hell of a lot more than Seth pays himself to voice half the characters in FG.

That'd have to count against its return.
evan

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« Reply #11 on: 05-05-2005 02:08 »

I would imagine the cost of the 3-D effects would have gone down in the past 3 years. It sure won't be cheap, but it won't be as expensive as we think it is. I imagine that a new season of Futurama would be economically viable for Fox, but not for Cartoon Network.

I don't know about the voice cast, but if Family Guy can get Seth Green, Mila Kunis, etc...I'm sure Futurama can get its voice cast back. It would be awesome if they were willing to take a cut in pay to record more dialogue, if they had to.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #12 on: 05-05-2005 02:19 »

I've heard conflicting things about the costs of the two shows.  One thing I've heard before is that Family Guy actually cost about the same as Futurama generally, simply because they kept having to do retakes of the animation (I guess their animators are much more inept then Rough Draft).  Not sure if this is true though.
GenocidalSmashr

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« Reply #13 on: 05-05-2005 11:23 »

Yeah they cost about the same. Seth Mcfarland said in some article a few months ago that the old FG episodes cost 1.2 million each.
bankrupt

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« Reply #14 on: 05-05-2005 12:17 »

I've heard that Family Guy costs about as much as Futurama to make as well.  Futurama is much more lush graphically than Family Guy so you'd think it would cost more, but maybe Rough Draft is just that much better.  It's hard to tell when prices are quoted if the numbers are just the animation expense or the whole cost (voice actors, etc.).  I'd love to have more Futurama, but my hopes are always low.  It is FOX who does the decision making.
futz
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« Reply #15 on: 05-05-2005 13:49 »

Once the 3d models are complete it's actually faster than trying to figure out the perspective of each cell in each view. You can zip out a whole motion sequence pretty quickly. I have a hunch that the expense was more in the details, coloring, etc. Futurama seems to be done in a high frame rate too (yeah!).

I know the Simpsons voice actors were holding out for much bigger bucks a while ago. I know Billy West grumbled in one of his interviews about name guest stars getting big bucks for a small parts in shows that he did (not sure if he was talking about Futurama, though). So that's probably going to cost about the same what ever your making and the regular crew might not be the problem.
Bandit Ruler

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« Reply #16 on: 05-05-2005 15:18 »

 
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
I think that Futurama has a chance currently to come back more then it ever has. I hope that if FOX sees the success that Family Guy produces, they will reconsider renewing Futurama.

Or we could just wait until American Dad gets cancelled and Futurama can take it's place.   tongue
(No seriously, it sucks ass).

Yeah, American Dad looks pretty horrible. But I am happy to post a recent ratings report from [as] to support this.

*[as] connection commencing*

On the acquisitions front, such high-profile shows as Family Guy and Futurama continue to provide top ratings for Adult Swim.  Among recent ratings/delivery highlights, the March 1 telecast of Futurama (11:30 p.m.) scored Cartoon Network’s highest adults 18-34 (1,260,000) and men 18-34 (826,000) deliveries ever for a single telecast.

*[as] connection terminated*
DotheBartman

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« Reply #17 on: 05-05-2005 19:36 »

 
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Originally posted by futz:
I know the Simpsons voice actors were holding out for much bigger bucks a while ago. I know Billy West grumbled in one of his interviews about name guest stars getting big bucks for a small parts in shows that he did (not sure if he was talking about Futurama, though). So that's probably going to cost about the same what ever your making and the regular crew might not be the problem.

Simpsons (and, presumably, Futurama) guests are paid next to nothing.  I'm not even sure if they get paid at all, though I think they get just a little, along with a special jacket and a tape of the completed episode later.  I think the idea is that they're being done a favor anyway (publicity), plus a lot of them request to be on just because they're fans or whatever, and only have to do minimal work, so they don't get paid the way the voice actors do (the Simpsons regulars are paid a lot because the show actually needs them to continue.  Lose any of the main six, and the show would have to end.  And they can make the demands, because the show is so valuable to Fox).

I think what Billy was actually ranting about was more about movies and shows where they cast the main characters with big stars, many of who can't voice act particularly well.  The voice acting field itself is very competitive due to somewhat limited roles, and then these big stars come in and take all these movie roles (think of something like Shark Tale, where they had Will Smith, Renee Zellwegger, etc, but essentially no professional voice actors) and sometimes tv roles as well.  Incidentally I'd have to agree with Billy.
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