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DrThunder88

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« on: 11-05-2001 12:34 »
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I've been having a lot of trouble convincing people that Futurama is a legitimate show in its own right.  Most of my associates here at school are Simpsons fans and are threatened by this new show.  My question to the forum is: do you think Futurama is going to replace the Simpsons?  My thought is that it should.  I've been a Futurama fan since day one, and I used to think that the two shows could coincide as they were vastly different and still individually funny. The tragedy is that the Simpsons has gotten stale after twelve seasons and needs to be retired.  Fox has a corner on the prime-time cartoon market, but fails to notice that the Simpsons can remain a cliche of itself for so long.  Futurama takes a step in a direction not seen in the Simpsons, Family Guy, and King of the Hill.  Futurama has almost limitless horizons in a future world where almost anything is possibile.  Futurama is the wave of the...well...future.

But I digress...your thoughts, please.

--Special Addendum--
Nixorbo made a good point and inspired a follow-up question:  What time slot day/time would you like to see Futurama in?
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« Reply #1 on: 11-05-2001 12:41 »

But Futurama could only be the Simpsons' heir apparent if Fox actually started treating it with respect again.
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« Reply #2 on: 11-05-2001 13:06 »

This man are correct.
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« Reply #3 on: 11-05-2001 14:00 »

 
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But Futurama could only be the Simpsons' heir apparent if Fox actually started treating it with respect again.
/Me nods in agreement


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« Reply #4 on: 11-05-2001 14:21 »

I think Futurama could potentially replace The Simpsons but I doubt it will happen.

The time I would like it to air is 8:00pm.
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« Reply #5 on: 11-05-2001 22:25 »

It should replace The Simpsons. But they have at least three more seasons, it'll be a miracle of Futurama doesn't go off before then.
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« Reply #6 on: 11-07-2001 11:53 »
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I really hope both shows will survive. I don't know how many people formerly working on "The Simpsons" work on Futurama. I guess that is an important detail, if there isn't enough good manpower to keep both shows going.
I share your opinion, that Futurama can only be successful if Fox gave it some room. I don't know about their pr-effords to promote the show but showing an episode every now and then surely isn't the right way to build a regular audience.
but that point was discussed on this board as long as I can remember and I'm tired of the repeating statement "Fox sucks". It won't help
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« Reply #7 on: 11-07-2001 11:54 »

 
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I don't know how many people formerly working on "The Simpsons" work on Futurama.

I can think of one artist . . .

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« Reply #8 on: 11-07-2001 12:42 »

*blank stare*

Who.
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« Reply #9 on: 11-07-2001 20:04 »

 
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 I can think of one artist . . .


Seems like sarge has to work overtime for us. You don't need more than an hour of sleep and recreation a month, Sarge, do you?  wink
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« Reply #10 on: 11-07-2001 23:05 »

I get plenty of sleep, & several months of hiatus. But I do occassionally work overtime.
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« Reply #11 on: 11-07-2001 23:43 »

what's with you gettin rid of all your pics sarge, found out it was illegal or something?
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« Reply #12 on: 11-08-2001 00:02 »
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I put them up for your enjoyment. Now you're bitching to me?
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« Reply #13 on: 11-08-2001 00:03 »

Futurama should definately replace Simpsons.
Simpsons are way past their prime. I'd say the last 4-5 seasons of Simpsons have been....crap. For the most part at least.

I long for the hey-days where Conan O'Brien wrote for the show, Homer goes to college, the mono-rail....classics. However, now the show has stagnated and become redundant and ridiculous.
Thats not to say its not funny anymore, just much more low-brow.

Futurama has a core cast of characters which lend themselves to far more interesting plots, and situations. Look at the SImpson family, you hate Marge, you think Lisa sucks....Maggie...well, doesn't talk.
Anyway, I didn't like Futurama initially. But now its my favourite show on TV>
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« Reply #14 on: 11-08-2001 00:08 »

Whoa don't get me wrong Sarge, its rad that you could have the up, i'm just wondering why you took them down?
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« Reply #15 on: 11-08-2001 00:42 »

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    Originally posted by oldpaintycanme:
    the last 4-5 seasons of Simpsons have been....crap

    More like the last 2.  Without Seasons 8-10 we wouldn't have:
      Season 8:
      You Only Move Twice
      The Springfield Files
      Brother From Another Series
      Grade School Confidential
      Homer's Enemy
      The Simpsons Spinoff Showcase
      The Secret War of Lisa Simpson
      Season 9:
      The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson
      The Cartridge Family
      Das Bus
      Lisa the Simpson
      The Trouble With Trillions
      Girly Edition
      Season 10:
      The Wizard of Evergreen Terrace
      Homer Simpson in: 'Kidney Trouble'
      Mayored to the Mob
      Wild Barts Can't Be Broken
      Thirty Minutes Over Tokyo[/list]

      I could go on to the ones I thought were good, but not great . . .

       
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      you hate Marge, you think Lisa sucks

      That's the funny thing, because I don't hate Marge and I don't think Lisa sucks.

      I have a thousand years of power.
      "NOOOOO HE WAS MY BROTHER!" and then got tired and slept.


      "He has the special talent, though, of being able to help people and make them feel utterly stupid all at the same time. ... In short, he's a great moderator, but a terrible human being."
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      « Reply #16 on: 11-08-2001 13:00 »

      Oye, how many times do I have to say this? Conan was nothing! His episodes were good, but he didn't really have an influence on the direction of the show, and in fact the best two seasons came after he left.

      Besides, look at his show now. The writing is as tired as The Simpsons. Having Conan back on the show would change nothing.
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      « Reply #17 on: 11-08-2001 13:55 »

      And even the last two seasons have had one gem of an episode.  For season 11 it was Behind the Laughter.  For season 12 it was Trilogy of Error.

      And I'm not all that big of a fan of Homer Goes to College.  Maybe it's because I haven't seen it in ages, but I don't remember it being all that great.
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      « Reply #18 on: 11-08-2001 22:29 »

       
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      Originally posted by ShineyMetal@$$:
      Whoa don't get me wrong Sarge, its rad that you could have the up, i'm just wondering why you took them down?

      Sorry, it just sounded like a smarmy remark I read at another board. (They weren't 'just wondering'.)
      I take them down about a week after I put them up to keep Fox off my butt. They've been on it before.   frown
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      « Reply #19 on: 11-08-2001 23:10 »

      Yeah, the last two seasons of The Simpsons haven't been too good.  I have a feeling season 13 will bounce back and be better than the previous two, but maybe I'm just in denial.
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      « Reply #20 on: 11-10-2001 00:30 »

      I think you are.

      No signature.
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      « Reply #21 on: 11-10-2001 07:41 »

      Every Simpsons season is good, it's just that some are a million times better than any other cartoon (accept Futurama) & other seasons are just twice as good as any other.
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      « Reply #22 on: 11-15-2001 00:07 »

        The Simpsons was a great show but it has lost it's edge...For every great show that's aired now, there are at least five that are okay at best...Futurama is fresh, smart and almost always funny...  cool     
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      « Reply #23 on: 11-15-2001 10:51 »

      I think the Simpsons turned into a parody of itself. "The Simpsons are going to Delaware!" "I enjoyed a brief but memorable stint as Sideshow Marge!" It seems that the show is mocking the viewers more and more. Futurama is where it's at now.

      I personally don't get people that are Simpsons fans don't like Futurama. I guess they're a bit 'iffy' about the sci-fi factor of the show.
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      « Reply #24 on: 11-15-2001 22:19 »

       
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      I think the Simpsons turned into a parody of itself. "The Simpsons are going to Delaware!"

      That's the weird thing. The writers sometimes include self-deprecating jokes about their go-nowhere plots, nonsensical endings, and their overuse of guest stars and all that. They seem to be aware of some of the problems with the show...so why don't they ever work on fixing those problems?

      Just because you point out that your writing is lazy doesn't make it any less lazy.

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      « Reply #25 on: 11-16-2001 00:27 »

      Maybe the writers have been instructed to write go-nowhere plots, nonsensical endings, and overuse of guest stars by greedy and uncaring CEOs?
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      « Reply #26 on: 11-16-2001 01:19 »

      That's the fate of every long-lasting sitcom.
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      « Reply #27 on: 11-16-2001 07:43 »

      Didn't happen to seinfeld ..........Did it?
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      « Reply #28 on: 11-16-2001 12:55 »

      Kinda. Seinfeld definitely got wackier in its last two seasons without Larry David.

      I actually preferred it that way, but understandably, other people thought it was a crappy hollow shell of its former self.
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      « Reply #29 on: 11-16-2001 17:54 »

      actually, it did happen to seinfeld, only in reverse.  That show was about "nothing"  and yet the final episode had more things happen than an entire season of a normal show.  And boy did that episode blow.
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      « Reply #30 on: 11-16-2001 18:19 »

      Back to the point... The 1st season of Futurama is far superior to the Simpsons first season in every way, the animation is the obvious difference but also the storys are deeper, the character developement is excellent & it has many classic episodes & has a lot more satire & is a lot more funny.
       If you need to convince someone which is better then compare the 1st seasons.
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      « Reply #31 on: 11-16-2001 19:00 »

      Futurama had the Simpsons to grow on.  I doubt it would be nearly as good without the Simpsons to build on.
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      « Reply #32 on: 11-16-2001 20:06 »

       
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      Futurama had the Simpsons to grow on.  I doubt it would be nearly as good without the Simpsons to build on.


      Just like ST:TNG and DS9.

      The Simpsons started out as pioneers (or almost pioneers) in the field of adult animation. The first few seasons saw the animators and storywriters develop and sharpen their skills. The first versions of the Simpsons was, compared to today, rougher. The stories was more down-to-Earth. The first few episodes was almost sitcom-materiel in their plausibility. Later seasons and episodes evolved and resulted in such classic episodes as: Cape Feare, Camp Crusty, Deep Space Homer, Who Shot Mr. Burns, You Only Move Twice, etc. The animations was smoother and the stories was more "out-there". When "Futurama" was launched it had all this experience and skill, developed at "The Simpsons", to draw upon, and thus it got of to a better start.

      I think "Futurama" is much better than "The Simpsons" in it's present day form. But the classic seasons of "The Simpsons" is still among the funniest moments of animated entertainment ever. The "Futurama" premise has great potential (which has already been shown to us time and again) and it will live on for a long time (unless Fox keeps insisting on killing it). 

      Oh, look! There I go again. Ranting endlessly.  smile Okay, I'll stop now.

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      « Reply #33 on: 11-20-2001 20:31 »

      Here's my two cents. The Simpsons are running out of plots. Homer's getting dumber, not going to work and the kids don't go to school much in the last few seasons. Futurama is fresh, new, and the imagination is the limit. You figure it out. I think Futurama should take over.
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      « Reply #34 on: 11-23-2001 07:15 »
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      They can both run side by side..they may be made by same people but are completely different in many ways..some people just like one or the other, others both.

      I personally much prefere futurmama and the imagination of it; tis more unusal than other cartoon's. But simpsons has its loyal fans from long ago!!! Hopefuly futurama wil continue gaining in poularity though and run for yeasr to come (maybe not quite the year 3000 though!!!  tonguepuke
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      « Reply #35 on: 11-23-2001 11:37 »

      Welcome to PEEL, BenderRules. Enjoy it.
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      « Reply #36 on: 11-23-2001 13:10 »

      Futurama obviously has endless boundaries, but I don't think it should overthrow the Simpsons  no no .  Eventually I believe the Simpsons will run out of gas (after 20 seasons maybe?), but I don't think it has yet.  The Simpsons goes through the life of the SIMPSONS and that still leaves endless possibilities (well maybe not endless). Its funny that they make fun of themselves though.  Really the Simpsons has a ways to go till it finishes, but Futurama needs room to grow.  I think Fox needs to move Futurama to another day with another show, maybe one of their new ones.  Actually I wouldn't mind Family Guy and Futurama back to back.  That's what I think, G'night.

      To those whom I have loved...
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      « Reply #37 on: 11-25-2001 00:20 »

      After episodes like "Homer the Moe," I'm ready for the Simpsons to throw in the towel
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      « Reply #38 on: 06-25-2003 10:03 »

      AH check it out i googled this thread. Sarge i'll find you YET!!!
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      « Reply #39 on: 06-25-2003 10:43 »
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      You felt the need to resurrect it just so you could say that?

      At least it gives us another peek at a classic sig. Probably the best in PEEL history ever.

      Edit: wow, we really were young and naive back then.  hmpf
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