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jerkberg

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« on: 10-10-2004 06:47 »
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hope this is in the right place
okay this is where you can guess how many generations are there between fry and the professor
my guess about 120

Teral

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« Reply #1 on: 10-10-2004 08:21 »

A generation is the number of years between parents and children. 840 (1000  minus Farnsworth's age of 160) years, 120 generations, give an average of 7 years. Somehow I don't think people will start having children at the age of 7 in the future.

One of the effects of industrialisation is that the generation span has increased, people get children later in life than they used to. There are great difficulties determining the exact age gap, some sources put the average a 23, some at 25 and some even at 30. A nice round number like 25 will do for us.

840 years, 25 years/generation => 33 generations.
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« Reply #2 on: 10-10-2004 08:59 »
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« Reply #3 on: 10-10-2004 13:44 »
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Maybe the alien attacks would have interupted things, plus the fact people live longer in the future, and have more time to have kids later on in life. My guess, 30...
jerkberg

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« Reply #4 on: 10-10-2004 14:27 »
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now that you say that where were the Frys/farnsworsths family when the earth was attacked
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« Reply #5 on: 10-10-2004 14:37 »

Well, I'd like to combine these theories between jerkberg, Teral, and Otis here. The extreme ends of the gaps are widening. Kids are having sex and getting pregnant at younger ages all the time. But, since people have more time to live now due to higher life expectancy, people are also waiting to have children until a later age. This is basically where the generation schism occurs as the middle ground slims down closer to nothing every day. So it could range anywhere from 20-something to possibly even 50-something.
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« Reply #6 on: 10-10-2004 14:41 »

7 years old
sorry about that guess i didn't do the math
so lampy do you still hate me if so then i'm sorry
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« Reply #7 on: 10-10-2004 17:37 »

The fact that we meet Hank Aaron XXIII in "A Leela of Her Own" gives a suggestion as to how many generations the writers might think have passed.  Aaron is considerably younger than Farnsworth, though.
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« Reply #8 on: 10-10-2004 18:07 »

I just found some ancient scrolls in a Babylonian cave that may shed some light on Fry's heritage:

Yancy "Minuteman" Fry (1750-1776) was an early casualty in the American Revolution.  On July 4, 1776, he was stationed outside the building where the Declaration of Independence was being signed.  He saw a butterfly floating by, and thought it would be a nice present for his infant son (people were much more easily amused in those days).  He slipped on a horse apple left in the dirt street and was impaled upon his own bayonette.  His wife, Lila, raised her son to believe that his father died bravely in battle against the British.

Yancy "Gone in 60 Seconds" Fry (1775-1814), vowing to avenge his father, served in the war of 1812.  On August 24, 1814, Pvt. Fry decided that, since the war expired two years ago, he was going to give up this quest and resign from the Army.  While waiting to see his CO at the HQ in Washington, he lit up a cigar, and carelessly discarded it into a hayloft.  The resulting fire burned down most of Washington, including Pvt. Fry.  Once again, the British took the blame.

Yancy Taylor Fry (1814-1841) was an apprentice in a Washington DC tailor shop.  He "borrowed" a fancy topcoat one evening to impress his girlfriend, and forgot to return it the next day.  The topcoat's owner, newly-inaugurated president William Henry Harrison, caught pneumonia and died after 30 days in office.  Fry was hanged for coat theft.

Yancy Mason-Dixon Fry (1841-1865) was an usher at Ford's Theatre in Washington.  On April 14, 1865, he abandoned his post at the front door to get some popcorn, allowing John Wilkes Booth to enter and assassinate Lincoln. Fry held the door for Booth on his way out, and was executed for his complicity in the assassination.

Yancy "this is harder than I thought it would be" Fry (1865-1898) was a delivery boy for a fish market.  He was stowing crates of halibut in the hold of the USS Maine on February 15, 1898 when his lantern ran out of fuel.  Groping blindly through the hold, he finally found what he thought was a candle, but was actually a stick of dynamite.  The explosion destroyed the Maine (and Fry), and touched off the Spanish-American War.

Yancy Trump Fry (1898-1929) was a sanitation worker for the city of New York.  Tired of having to sweep up ticker tape after parades, he started re-rolling it, and on October 24, 1929, he took it upon himself to re-install it into ticker-tape machines all over Wall Street.  The subsequent panic that ensued caused the Crash and the Great Depression, and Yancy was crushed by a fat, suicidal stockbroker who leapt from a tall building.

Yancy Enos Fry (1923-1947)...well...you already know his story.

Yancy Fry (1948-?) begat Phillip J. Fry (1974-?), brother of Yancy Fry (1974-?).  Yancy begat Phillip (2000-?), who begat Herman (2025), who begat Aristotle (2054), who begat Leonard (2070), who begat Allen (2099), who begat Debbie, who got beat up a lot, but later begat Thor (2117), who begat Mervin (2138), who begat Kyle (2180), who begat Chevy (2210), who begat Napoleon (2245), who begat Willie (2289), who begat Zimbo (2314), who begat Foofel (2388), who begat Jarnette (2420), who married Gaylen Farnsworth and begat Jackson (2450), who begat Lilliput (2506), who begat Rhinestone (2591), who begat Evner (2658), who begat Yancy (2676), who begat Dingle (2704), who begat General (2785), who begat Barstow (2816), who begat Hubert (2840).
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« Reply #9 on: 10-10-2004 22:18 »

Well, I'm glad you didn't spend to much time on that. But bloody nice work.
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« Reply #10 on: 10-10-2004 22:41 »

I'm guessing that if the producers had to make a guess, they'd choose 42 generations. It's not much more than Teral's scientific guess, and it's a reference to HHGTTG, which, we can all agree, has been sadly lacking from the show.
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« Reply #11 on: 10-11-2004 00:44 »

Well, thanks.  Now, what would be really neat would be if someone drew pictures of all of these new characters.

Hint, hint.
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« Reply #12 on: 10-11-2004 01:15 »

I remember reading somewhere on CGEF that it was 30, although that may have just been an informal estimate.
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« Reply #13 on: 10-11-2004 01:20 »

I'd say replace "Yancy Enos Fry" with "Mildred Fry,"  seeing as how while Enos was theoretically Yancy "The radiation'll turn us all into monkeys" Fry's father, there is no reason that Mildred would have given her child the name of the deceased "father," unless she was particularly paranoid that people wouldn't believe her story.

Also note that at the beginning of TLOTF, Yancy "TRTUAIM" Fry indicates that the direct male line of Yancy Frys had skipped a generation:
 
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Son, you're named Yancy, like me, and my grandfather and his father before him, all the way back to Minuteman Yancy Fry, who blasted Commies in the American Revolution.

Which would make Phillip Fry I's father Yancy Fry VII, and his brother Yancy Fry VIII.
jerkberg

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« Reply #14 on: 10-11-2004 03:20 »

popular topic a lot of guesses
on cgef it does say x30 but that's just an estimate
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« Reply #15 on: 10-11-2004 10:19 »

 
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Originally posted by totalnerduk:
I'm guessing that if the producers had to make a guess, they'd choose 42 generations. It's not much more than Teral's scientific guess, and it's a reference to HHGTTG, which, we can all agree, has been sadly lacking from the show.

Since Cohen is such a big Star Trek fan I'm sure they'd pick 47 instead.

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jerkberg

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« Reply #16 on: 10-11-2004 12:17 »

why 47
Teral

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« Reply #17 on: 10-11-2004 14:40 »

Watch Star Trek (I said, doooo it!) and you'll notice the number 47 have a spooky tendency to appear more often than other numbers. At first it was a coincidence, but later ST writers put them in on purpose.
jerkberg

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« Reply #18 on: 10-11-2004 14:58 »

sshhh don't say that word
never actually seen it before apart from the one of the movies. it was the one with spok's brother i think
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« Reply #19 on: 10-11-2004 17:07 »

 
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Originally posted by Nerd-o-rama:
I'd say replace "Yancy Enos Fry" with "Mildred Fry,"  seeing as how while Enos was theoretically Yancy "The radiation'll turn us all into monkeys" Fry's father, there is no reason that Mildred would have given her child the name of the deceased "father," unless she was particularly paranoid that people wouldn't believe her story.

Also note that at the beginning of TLOTF, Yancy "TRTUAIM" Fry indicates that the direct male line of Yancy Frys had skipped a generation:
 Which would make Phillip Fry I's father Yancy Fry VII, and his brother Yancy Fry VIII.

TRTUAIM?  I'm not up on the abbreviations yet.  Good point, though.  Given that quote by Phillip's father, Enos was NOT named Yancy at all (unless it was kept from him by Mildred).

Which brings us to Mildred's motivation.  She was Enos's girlfriend, not his wife, so when she got knocked up the day he died, she had to make up SOMETHING to save face (this was 1947, after all).  That may indeed be why Phillip's father didn't mention his father; his real father's identity was kept a secret from him.
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« Reply #20 on: 10-11-2004 21:07 »
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"TRTUAIM" is an acronym for the nickname I just gave him: "The Radiation'll Turn Us All Into Monkeys."  We can't call him Yancy Sr. in this context, so I had to do something else to make him distinct.

I think this may be the first post ever to have more UBB tags than words.[/i][/u]
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« Reply #21 on: 10-11-2004 21:27 »

The real trick is that you can count generations from Fry in two ways, and arrive at two numbers that differ by 2.  You can count Fry as Yancy's father, or as Yancy's son.  So to take, say, Teral's estimate of 33 generations, that's really 33/35.
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« Reply #22 on: 10-12-2004 02:29 »

It'd probably be about 30-33 generations.
Oh, laroquettespine, I cannot believe you made a list of Fry's descendants.  big grin
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« Reply #23 on: 10-12-2004 10:17 »
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Originally posted by jerkberg:
sshhh don't say that word
never actually seen it before apart from the one of the movies. it was the one with spok's brother i think

The only piece of Star Trek you've seen is the absolute worst example ever conceived? I mean ST5:The Final Frontier make V'Ger look like a work of Shakepspeare (and that's saying something (  tongue @ CK)). That's like saying the only Futurama episode you've seen is "I Dated A Robot".

OKay </offtopic>

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« Reply #24 on: 10-12-2004 11:43 »
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Umm...Teral...wouldn't "the one with spok's [sic] brother" be ST5: The Final Frontier?  Still not the greatest film in history, but it does beat the hell out of The Undiscovered country (ST6)

And the worst example of Star Trek is either--

I will not insult DS9 in front of Teral.  I will not insult DS9 in front of Teral.  I will not insult DS9 in front of Teral. 

--or Enterprise.
Teral

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« Reply #25 on: 10-12-2004 12:24 »
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Yeah, you're right N-O-R about the title. "the one with spok's brother" is TFF, which is so horribly bad I managed to block it entirely from my memory. The Undiscovered Country is not among Trek's finest moments, but it has some decent elements, where as TFF is completely unwatchable.

I haven't seen Enterprise, but judged on what I've read from people who have it's a step down from V'Ger (that's a bad thing).

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jerkberg

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« Reply #26 on: 10-12-2004 12:46 »
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Once again, the British took the blame.

you better not be blaming the scots
blame the english it's much easier
so at what point did it change from fry to farnsworth
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« Reply #27 on: 10-12-2004 16:19 »

Jarnette Fry (born 2420, daughter of Foofel Fry), married Gaylen Farnsworth in 2443 and begat Jackson Farnsworth (born 2450).

And the worst ST movie was #1...hands down.  At least part 5 had some humor, some panache.  Part 1 was a drag through the mud, daddy-o.
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