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PCC Fred

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« Reply #80 on: 09-15-2004 17:50 »

Aslate, a tip from one European PEELer to another - switiching the numbers around to make 11/9 may seem clever, but it's not.
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #81 on: 09-15-2004 18:01 »

Well, in case of an emergency you dial 911...the towers were hit on 9/11? Coincidence? OR NOT!
PCC Fred

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« Reply #82 on: 09-15-2004 18:04 »

Coincidence, I think.  Arabic countries also use 11/9, rather than 9/11.

Besides, if they're going to decide terrorist attack dates based on emergency phone numbers, Britian (999) is safe.
Neil McNeil

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« Reply #83 on: 09-15-2004 23:09 »

Com'n ppl, 9/11 was like 3 yrs ago your all living in the past quit living in the past and get over it, as far as loss of life and historical event's which it is now,

it's rather min-iscule in comparison to Horoshima it doesn't even register, the only reason ppl keep going on about it cuz its was mostly american ppl... if anyhting it did the world a favour to get rid of a few.

So Kudos Bin Laden, and to any Americans out they you shouldn't have been mad at these so called 'terrorist's' instead you should be mad at your own government for sticking their nose in everyone else's buisness.
ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #84 on: 09-16-2004 00:02 »

Does anyone else besides me find that extremely offensive? Did you just say "Kudos Bin Laden"?

Are you saying that a Legal act of War made half a century ago makes up for an illegal act of terrorism against innocents who where completley unrelated to the Hiroshima bombing?
Breeanne

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« Reply #85 on: 09-16-2004 00:07 »

neil yes 9/11 was in the past but we in the US still have people dieing over seas  beacuse of the war on terrisom. i know it you might think it has nothing to do with the twin towers but it dose if the towers never fall then the stupid person bush is (sorry if i offended anyone) wondent have started the stupid war that is surpsoe to be over. oh and neil i am not sayinging you are wong i agree bush sucks!
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #86 on: 09-16-2004 00:12 »

 
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Originally posted by Neil McNeil:
Com'n ppl, 9/11 was like 3 yrs ago your all living in the past quit living in the past and get over it, as far as loss of life and historical event's which it is now,

it's rather min-iscule in comparison to Horoshima it doesn't even register, the only reason ppl keep going on about it cuz its was mostly american ppl... if anyhting it did the world a favour to get rid of a few.

So Kudos Bin Laden, and to any Americans out they you shouldn't have been mad at these so called 'terrorist's' instead you should be mad at your own government for sticking their nose in everyone else's buisness.

If you aren't kidding, I swear to God you are the dumbest man ever to exist in any Universe ever.  I can't even begin to describe what's wrong with this post.  Augh...it sickens me.

You are kidding right?
Lrrrr

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« Reply #87 on: 09-16-2004 00:24 »
« Last Edit on: 09-16-2004 00:24 »

I agree with the "Quit living in the past" part, but "Kudos Bin Laden" part is pushing it buddy. I don't agree with Bin Laden's ideals, and that doesn't mean that I agree with Bush eather.

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Originally posted by Neil McNeil:

...it's rather min-iscule in comparison to Horoshima it doesn't even register,...

You also forgot about Nagisaki (sp?) I will also agree that the 9/11 attacks were a little miniscule to Nagisaki (again sp?) and Horoshima. I'm not saying the 9/11 attacks were right or anything.

I just realized how off topic (kind of) this thread is getting so...

No, they should not have an episode (if FOX were to order more episodes) because it just wouldn't be a good episode considering that in the shows setting in time would be one thousand years in the future would be quite stupid concidering that we don't discuss things that happend one thousand years ago on a daily bassis (not even Fry). So what I'm getting at is it would be quite a downer if they were to do that.


also I'm a chronic editor
Venus

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« Reply #88 on: 09-16-2004 00:44 »

 
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Originally posted by Neil McNeil:
if anyhting it did the world a favour to get rid of a few.

So Kudos Bin Laden.

You sir, are an ass. Congratulations.
ShortRoundMcfly

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« Reply #89 on: 09-16-2004 00:47 »
« Last Edit on: 09-16-2004 00:47 »

I think it might have been a joke gone out of hand. Next time, use the sarcasm tags.

Back on topic. A 9/11 themed episode would seem kind of weird if it was used so light heartedly enough to be in futurama. Besides, it's too soon. Although I heard statisticaly, it takes 2.8 years for something tragic to become funny...
Squeaky

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« Reply #90 on: 09-16-2004 01:56 »

Jokes aren't really funny when they include getting "rid of a few" as the punchline.

You might not like America but thinking human life as valuable as trash and can easily be thrown away or gotten rid of is sickening.
M0le

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« Reply #91 on: 09-16-2004 02:08 »

No Australians agree with the complete retard Neil McNeil, and I'm sure he probably lives in a shed with his mother who also happens to be his wife and cousin.
evan

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« Reply #92 on: 09-16-2004 02:27 »

Man, those explosions in Jakarta that killed all those Australians sure were funny, weren't they?  Hahahaha...I hope someone McNiel knew died in there, because there are too many Aussies anyway.

No, seriously, N McN, you're an idiot.  I was thinking of getting this thread closed before, but now I definately am going to try.
Tongue Luck

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« Reply #93 on: 09-16-2004 02:51 »
« Last Edit on: 09-16-2004 02:51 »

 
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Originally posted by Lrrrr:
Nagisaki (again sp?) and Horoshima.
Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
You know, you've become a much better poster lately, Lrrrr. You're invited to the tea party I'm not really going to have.

Topic? As much as I trust the Futurama writing staff, I don't think there's a good way for the show to directly reference 9/11. A story with some parallels to, say, the Iraq war just might work in the right hands, but it would be tasteless and pointless to discuss 9/11 itself.

edited because I got Lrrrr's name wrong... twice. I hope to see you soon for tea!
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #94 on: 09-16-2004 04:25 »
« Last Edit on: 09-17-2004 00:00 »

   
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Man, those explosions in Jakarta that killed all those Australians sure were funny, weren't they? Hahahaha...I hope someone McNiel knew died in there, because there are too many Aussies anyway.

I know that this has nothing to do with your point, but no Australians actually died in the Jakata bombing. They were mostly Indonesians, and a few people trying to get Australian visas/passports.

This post brought to you by the historical sticklers society.

Oh yes... Mcneil, you're an idiot. Despite the fact that my actions suggest otherwise, not all Australians as witty, intelligent, and handsome as I am. I apologise for being misleading.
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #95 on: 09-16-2004 11:33 »

Haha, for once I didn't start the flamefest. Awesome.

Points I agree with:
-People need to get over it
-The reason we keep hearing about it is because it was mostly Americans that died
-It was miniscule in comparison to the Japan bombings

Points I don't agree with:
-It didn't do the world a favor to get rid of a few. Sure, maybe everyone who died was an idiot and I'd be glad they died if I knew them, but I didn't, so I'll remain indifferent because I can't judge people I didn't know.
-The "Kudos Bin Laden" thing...sure, we stuck our nose in their business, but it's not like we attacked them first(unless I'm being really ignorant), so I see every justifiable point to go and kick some fucking Al-Qaeda ass after they hit our towers.

I have to say though, I think all of you guys overreacted. At least give him an opportunity to make his argument. It's not like he's an American saying all this.
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #96 on: 09-16-2004 11:41 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident
The "Kudos Bin Laden" thing...sure, we stuck our nose in their business, but it's not like we attacked them first(unless I'm being really ignorant)

Actually, America funded Bin Laden (as well as Saddam Hussein and the Afghanistani Taliban) back in the 80's when Communists were trying to take over the Middle East.

And for once, Lampy makes the most balanced and reasoned response.  I'm still to angry to entirely agree with Lampy, but...oh well.  Close enough to right.
VoVat

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« Reply #97 on: 09-16-2004 17:41 »

 
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Well, in case of an emergency you dial 911...the towers were hit on 9/11? Coincidence? OR NOT!

Didn't the report say that they originally planned on attacking on the anniversary of US bombings aimed at Al Qaeda, but they ended up doing it on a later date when Congress was in session?
Breeanne

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« Reply #98 on: 09-16-2004 17:51 »

Vovat i think your right but people shouldent we get back on topic?

ok what i think on topic-No new ep about 9/11
PCC Fred

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« Reply #99 on: 09-16-2004 19:29 »
« Last Edit on: 09-16-2004 19:29 »

Everyone stop insulting Neil McNeil immediately.  Anyone who lauds bin Laden, thinks that the 3000 9/11 victims somehow deserved what happened to them or that the world is better off without them, and lists his nationality as "Brizzy" clearly has bigger problems than a group of internet freaks disliking him.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #100 on: 09-16-2004 19:47 »
« Last Edit on: 09-16-2004 19:47 »

Let me just make another point, about what I said earlier.  I guess I was trying to be relevant.  Saying that those Futurama scenes I mentioned were relevant, it wasn't a full direct reference, but something relevant.

Of course, I don't think Zapp using the PE ship to crash into the Neutral Capitol is a direct reference to 9/11 or the scene from RTEW, but I look at those scenes to be relevant, because of 9/11.  In other words, it was just a coincidence, but a very odd coincidence.

Planets of the Apes, despite being a social commentary of its day, is still revelant today.

Futurama no matter how many years have gone back, will still be revelant to society, just as the Simpsons has been revelant in the last 15 years.

A Head At the Polls was aired in Nov. 2000, during that whole election crisis.  That episode is relevant what was actually going on with Bush and Gore.  DXC on the commentary said AHATP was made before the election, but since the Bush/Gore actually ended very strangely, that Futurama episode is revelant to what actually happened.

#100     big grin
BNLbum

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« Reply #101 on: 09-16-2004 21:51 »

A thousand years in the future, no one is going to remember 2 buildings getting destroyed. Do you remember all those people who died in all those tragedies back in the year 1001? No? We look at wars from 50 years ago and shrug it off. Many, many more people have died in tragedies over the years, but at this point, no one pauses to remember them. The way of the world.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #102 on: 09-16-2004 22:49 »
« Last Edit on: 09-17-2004 00:00 »

In the movie, "Wrong Turn" there is a scene where three young people (two girls and one guy) are hiding in a Ranger Station, which is up in a few trees.  They are hiding from evil mountain men and when they are found out, the mountain men set the tree trunks on fire cause the flames to rise and place the station on fire.  At one point one of the girls get hysterical and breaks a window and tries to jump about 30 feet.  Her friends stop her from going so, and she only says, "I rather jump than burn to death".  Isn't that very relevant.

And you are right, I doubt most people in a thousand years will remember 9/11, that is why people today are milking it.

I just saw one of those commercial that was offerring one of those special American dollar coins that cause up to $50.00 but they slash the price down to $20.00 for a limit time offer.

It is called the WTC Freedom Silver coin.  On one side it features the completed Freedom Tower, which is being building in NY to honor the victims of 9/11.  The tower looks a bit like the Twin Towers, I might add.  On the other side of the coin, it features the regular WTC before 9/11.  What is interesting about this coin is that a limit amount of the coins are made of a shiny silver, and that silver came from the remains of WTC.  So you could own a piece of the WTC.
evan

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« Reply #103 on: 09-17-2004 00:16 »

 
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
Her friends stop her from going so, and she only says, "I rather jump than burn to death".  Isn't that very relevant.

If that's the best you can do with "this show/movie is exploiting 9/11," you have some pretty weak evidence.


Bender: "Try this, kids at home!
Warning: do not try this at home
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #104 on: 09-17-2004 00:26 »
« Last Edit on: 09-17-2004 00:26 »

I didn't say that scene in the movie was exploiting 9/11, I'm just saying it is relevant that people would rather jump from a high place, then burn to death.

If any, I think the coin is more of a exploitation of 9/11.
Venus

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« Reply #105 on: 09-17-2004 00:51 »

How is it relevant that a line that can be applied to several different situations just happens to work for wtc? It also works for house fires, forest fires, office fires, caused by any number of things like arson, accidents, faulty wiring. What does it matter? Why are you even trying to link this stuff?
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #106 on: 09-17-2004 01:00 »
« Last Edit on: 09-17-2004 01:00 »

Exactly, you can link it to just about any similar situation.  Hence, my point has been made.

JBERGES

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« Reply #107 on: 09-17-2004 01:05 »
« Last Edit on: 09-17-2004 01:05 »

That logic is so faulty I don't even know where to begin.  You've made no point, you just aimlessly link everything to anything, no matter how convoluted the means, like it's your hobby or something.
 
For instance: here's one I found just now 

There's many, many, more I've encountered in my time here, but it's late and I don't feel like searching.

On topic, bad idea.  Plain and slimple.  Why force it?  What good will it do?  Will it entertain?
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #108 on: 09-17-2004 01:11 »

 
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The funniest part of that link is that FryFan seems to have completely missed Speli's sarcasm.

Shaucker

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« Reply #109 on: 09-17-2004 01:13 »

Hey, remember the horrible tragedy when Hrogarth's village was destroyed by the warring Swedes in 922? Man, I couldn't sleep for a week knowing that Sven Redson was still at large.

Now tell me that 9/11 will be tragic after a thousand years. And tell me that you're not a moron for thinkong it will be.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #110 on: 09-17-2004 01:18 »
« Last Edit on: 09-17-2004 01:18 »

   
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Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:
 The funniest part of that link is that FryFan seems to have completely missed Speli's sarcasm.


You forget, that I like sarcasm as well, and enjoy going along with it.


 
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #111 on: 09-17-2004 01:21 »
« Last Edit on: 09-17-2004 01:21 »

 
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You forget, that I like sarcasm as well

Oh, like this?

   
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Originally posted by Speli:
Holy crap, stop the presses. We need to change the cover story! Hell, are the planets aligning?! This could be the end!

What's even more weird is that Maurice LaMarche does the voice of FATHER on KND.  And he uses an alter verison of the voice he uses to do the voice of MOM's son, Walt.

Zing.


Now THAT's sarcasm!
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #112 on: 09-17-2004 01:26 »
« Last Edit on: 09-17-2004 01:26 »

     
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Originally posted by Shaucker:
Hey, remember the horrible tragedy when Hrogarth's village was destroyed by the warring Swedes in 922? Man, I couldn't sleep for a week knowing that Sven Redson was still at large.

Now tell me that 9/11 will be tragic after a thousand years. And tell me that you're not a moron for thinkong it will be.

Of course, I know 9/11 won't be as tragic a 1000 years later.

I originally was thinking, what if Futurama did an episode that was sort of a reference to 9/11, or War on Terrorism, as someone on this thread suggested.  Just like how WITHW is a reference to Vietnam.  Then people brought up the tragedy, then I asked, what if Futurama did an episode were Fry learns of 9/11, just like how he learned of his nephew in TLOTF.  People had a problem with that and so, I started mentioning how life is relevant by pointing out moments in Futurama that were vaguely similar to 9/11, but not direct references.  People took it the wrong way and thought, I said Futurama had direct references to 9/11.

     
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Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:
 Zing.


Now THAT's sarcasm!


Exactly.
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #113 on: 09-17-2004 01:31 »

How is it that no one can understand your logic but you?
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #114 on: 09-17-2004 01:33 »
« Last Edit on: 09-17-2004 01:33 »

Maybe it is because you aren't reading between the lines.  You guys think that I said Futurama has direct references to 9/11 and I'm trying to say the life has things that are relevant and I'm using Futurama as an example.

Matt and David even said the Futurama world was to mirror the real world.  It isn't fully dark or fully happy and things happen in the Futurama world that are parallel to ours.  Good and bad things on Futurama, just like how good and bad things happen in the real world.  Since, 9/11 was a more recent big tragedy then some of the others mentioned on this thread, I just pointed out things that were parallel.

Venus

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« Reply #115 on: 09-17-2004 01:41 »

I'm really not getting this whole 'relevancy' thing either. If you can link anything that happens in the world to wtc and in your mind think its relevant on some level than anyone who for whatever reason wants to link Futurama to wtc would have already done so on their own making an actual 9/11 referencing ep redundant.

I don't understand what makes this whole wtc linkage thing so poignant for you. So let's play a new game instead. Let's link everything to titanic.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #116 on: 09-17-2004 01:44 »
« Last Edit on: 09-17-2004 01:44 »

I'm not trying to link everything to 9/11.  This thread is about Futurama and 9/11. And I'm not trying to directly link Futurama with 9/11 either. 

I do try to link Futurama with other Sci-fi references in this thread.
http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/Futurama/1-003058-1/


If I wanted to link Futurama and Titanic, all I have to say is watch, "A Flight to Remember" and that is it.
Venus

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« Reply #117 on: 09-17-2004 01:49 »

This thread which you started as a way to link futurama and 9/11. and then you were the one that started mentioning all these other supposed links. It just sounds like to me that your stuck on wtc for some reason. Move on. Even the widows/widowers of victims are starting to date again.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #118 on: 09-17-2004 01:54 »
« Last Edit on: 09-17-2004 01:54 »

The reason why I made this thread was the fact of the third anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.  And I wondered, if Futurama was still airing new episodes, would they ever make a particular reference to 9/11 or the aftermath in some way?  I'd figure it would make an interesting debate.  After some point, I pretty much would've let this thread drop off the first page of threads, if not for people starting to put words in my mouth. 

I wouldn't mind if people disagreed with me, because not everybody is going to agree on the same thing, but I don't like having words put in my mouth.
Tongue Luck

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« Reply #119 on: 09-17-2004 02:30 »

fryfanSpyOrama: Michael Jackson has been in the news lately on child molestation charges. If Futurama came back, what if it did an episode about child molestation? Maybe Farnsworth could be wrongfully accused of sexually abusing Dwight and Cubert and the crew has to clear his name and Fry finds out about Michael Jackson in the process. Fry might have been a huge Michael Jackson fan, and he could find out that his hero was actually a bad guy. It would be a sad episode where he finds out that good things about his past weren't all they were cracked up to be and that he should be thankful he lives in the future.
M0le: That's a horrible idea.
Venus: That's too topical and too disturbing.
Nerd-o-rama: No one will care about this scandal in 1000 years.
fryfanSpyOrama: In The Deep South, Professor Farnsworth sprayed himself with fish pheromone and attracted Zoidberg, and he seemed to like it. This reminds me of how Michael Jackson attracted children to his ranch, and he seemed to like it. In The Cyber House Rules, Bender adopted twelve kids and they followed him around everywhere. This reminds me of Jackson's entourage of children. In Luck of the Fryrish, Fry did the moonwalk. Sound familiar? In Hell is Other Robots, Fry found out that the Beastie Boys released two albums since he was frozen. He could find out about the Michael Jackson child molestation scandal in the same way and it could shed some light on his past. In Insane in the Mainframe, and others, there was a trial. Michael Jackson is on trial. I think these are all very relevant. I'm surprised no one else has noticed this.
SlackJawedMoron: Those aren't references, you moron! They're just vaguely similar.
fryfanSpyOrama: He said moron! That is so funny! Anyway, I wasn't saying that they were references. I was saying that life is relevant, and so is Futurama. Since Futurama had a couple of scenes and episodes that reminded me of Michael Jackson and child molestation, they should do an entire episode that directly references it. Read between the lines, people!
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